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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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I just installed a new comp, condensor and receiver dryer, all went well till I tried to charge the system. I evacuated it for 3 hours, vacuum held perfectly all night. I went to charge the system but I can't get the compressor to start so I can't get the freon into the system, I'm showing about 110lbs press on the low side. Any help appreciated, I'm working on a 98 with climate control.

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I just installed a new comp, condensor and receiver dryer, all went well till I tried to charge the system. I evacuated it for 3 hours, vacuum held perfectly all night. I went to charge the system but I can't get the compressor to start so I can't get the freon into the system, I'm showing about 90lbs press on the low side. Any help appreciated, I'm working on a 98 with climate control.
since the system is completely empty, I'm thinking you'll have to jumper the low pressure switch to get the compressor started....so it'll draw in the R134.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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There are three wires to the switch, do I just tie them all together?
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Should not have to jumper anything....cutoffs are there for a reason.

If you have your gauges hooked up, you need to open the blue valve so you can let pressure do its job. You fire up an empty compressor (no oil, gas, etc) thats hard on the parts and not necessary. You can do initial charge with the car off. Pop a can into your gauges and let it fill at least to even out the pressure between the can and the system....

You say it held vacuum so you know it will draw anything in as soon as its introduced. Remember, you charge through the blue valve

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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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Should not have to jumper anything....cutoffs are there for a reason.

If you have your gauges hooked up, you need to open the blue valve so you can let pressure do its job. You fire up an empty compressor (no oil, gas, etc) thats hard on the parts and not necessary. You can do initial charge with the car off. Pop a can into your gauges and let it fill at least to even out the pressure between the can and the system....

You say it held vacuum so you know it will draw anything in as soon as its introduced. Remember, you charge through the blue valve

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With a clean system full vacuum, Engine OFF, you can do a quick liquid charge by inverting the can when you open the valve. This will allow the vacuum to empty the entire can into the system. THEN DON"T START IT!. Let is wait about an hour for the liquid/gas to normalize in the systme. Then on start up you should be able to turn on the compressor and allow it to cycle while adding GAS freon.

The ONLY time you can add liquid is ENGINE/COMPRESSOR OFF. If you do this engine running or start too soon you will blow the compressor from liquid ingestion.
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You can SLOWLY add liquid into the suction side of the system with the car running. 134A should be charged as a liquid anyway because when charged as a gas the blend doesn't stay completely suspended. You should not have to jump out any low pressure switch or cutout to get the compressor to run.
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When I charge a system from scratch, I always add the first can to both low and high sides at the same time in liquid (upside down) with the engine OFF. This way it will take the can much faster. Have a bucket of hot water to dunk the can in (it will get cold) and you will get more out without the car running. Close the high side and start car and AC. You should be able to charge from the low side now.
You might even have to clear a code or two first.
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There are three wires to the switch, do I just tie them all together?
Absolutely not...
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i would think if you have 110 on the low side the comp would cycle on and off using the low pressure switch built into the system. The comp should run until your low pressure switch opens, somewhere around 35 to 50 psi on your low pressure gauge (the blue one). good luck
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Originally Posted by gpracer1
When I charge a system from scratch, I always add the first can to both low and high sides at the same time in liquid (upside down) with the engine OFF. This way it will take the can much faster. Have a bucket of hot water to dunk the can in (it will get cold) and you will get more out without the car running. Close the high side and start car and AC. You should be able to charge from the low side now.
You might even have to clear a code or two first.
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i know i e-mailed you about your ac, but i just wondered if your low pressure switch wire or itself could be bad. The comp. wouldn't start if the switch is open good luck tony
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should have read my mail, pm answered. thanks tony
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