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Old May 15, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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I'll start off with a brief history. Over a year ago, I believe, I was having my TC/Active Handling and ABS stuff not respond and got the service vehicle message. Sometimes the guages didn't even respond to key entry. Cleaned the grounds: no fix. Checked the connections between the door: no fix. Fixed the connections in the ignition switch: everything fixed for over a year.

Now, a year later, my car is throwing codes every once in a while. Two codes keep reappearing:
B0432 HC (or just H depending on how lucky I get when I turn the car on)
U1040 HC (or just H depending on how lucky I get when I turn the car on)
When the problem occurs (ie: the service vehicle soon message along with the abs and tc light light up) I also get "No Communication" for the TCS code section.

I had a few more codes earlier in the week but I cleared them all and the 2 above are the ones that keep recurring in conjunction with the problem (which, again, only occurs every other ignition cycle or so). Also worth mentioning is the fact the two codes always pop up together, never separately...so far anyways.

Almost forgot, sometimes the car "fixes itself," for lack of a better word, while driving if I got them while turning over the car. What does CF think?

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Old May 15, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PaintballaXX
I'll start off with a brief history. Over a year ago, I believe, I was having my TC/Active Handling and ABS stuff not respond and got the service vehicle message. Sometimes the guages didn't even respond to key entry. Cleaned the grounds: no fix. Checked the connections between the door: no fix. Fixed the connections in the ignition switch: everything fixed for over a year.

Now, a year later, my car is throwing codes every once in a while. Two codes keep reappearing:
B0432 HC (or just H depending on how lucky I get when I turn the car on)
U1040 HC (or just H depending on how lucky I get when I turn the car on)
When the problem occurs (ie: the service vehicle soon message along with the abs and tc light light up) I also get "No Communication" for the TCS code section.

I had a few more codes earlier in the week but I cleared them all and the 2 above are the ones that keep recurring in conjunction with the problem (which, again, only occurs every other ignition cycle or so). Also worth mentioning is the fact the two codes always pop up together, never separately...so far anyways.

Almost forgot, sometimes the car "fixes itself," for lack of a better word, while driving if I got them while turning over the car. What does CF think?

DTC B0432
Rear Defogger Relay Circuit

U1040
Refer to DTC U1001-U1254

The module ID Number list provides a method for determining which module is not communicating. A module with an internal class 2 serial data circuit malfunction or which loses power during the current ignition cycle would have a Lost Communication DTC set by other modules. Use the module ID Number list in order to determine which module is not communicating and the DTC U1001-U1254 diagnostic table in order to diagnose the malfunction.

System
ID Number

Powertrain Control Module (PCM)
016

Electronic Brake Control Module (EBCM)
040

Electronic Suspension Control (ESC)
056

Body Control Module (BCM)
064

Inflatable Restraint Sensing and Diagnostic Module (SDM)
088

Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC)
096

Radio
128

HVAC
153

Driver Door Module (DDM)
160

Passenger Door Module (PDM)
161

Seat Control Module (SCM)
166

Remote Control Door Lock Receiver (RCDLR)
176

Circuit Description
Modules connected to the class 2 serial data circuit monitor for serial data communications during normal vehicle operation when operating information and commands are exchanged among the modules. When a module receives a message for a critical operating parameter, the module records the identification number of the module which sent the message for State of Health monitoring, Node Alive messages. A critical operating parameter is one which, when not received, requires that the module use a default value for that parameter. Once an identification number is learned by a module, it will monitor for that module's Node Alive message. Each module on the class 2 serial data circuit which is powered and performing functions that require detection of a communications malfunction is required to send a Node Alive message every 2 seconds. When no message is detected from a learned identification number for 5 seconds, a DTC U1XXX, where XXX is equal to the 3 digit identification number is set.

Conditions for Running the DTC
• Voltage supplied to the module is in the normal operating voltage range.

• Diagnostic trouble codes U1300 and U1301 are not set.

• The module setting the DTC requires serial data communication to occur.

Conditions for Setting the DTC
A message from a learned identification number has not been detected for the past 5 seconds.

Conditions for Clearing the DTC
• A current DTC will clear when a Node Alive message from the failed identification number is detected on the class 2 serial data circuit or at the end of the current ignition cycle.

• A history DTC will clear after 50 ignition switch cycles with no repeated malfunction.

Diagnostic Aids
• An intermittent open between the inoperative module and a star connector may cause this code to set.

• A poor connection at the inoperative module or a star connector may cause this code to set.

• An intermittent open in a star connector may cause this code to set.

• An improperly powered module may cause this code to set.

Test Description
The numbers below refer to the step numbers on the diagnostic table.

1.A module which loses power during an ignition cycle will cause other modules to set Lost Communication DTCs.

2.A module which loses power during an ignition cycle will cause other modules to set Lost Communication DTCs.

3.The malfunction is due to an open in the class 2 serial data circuit or an open in the module.

7.The module which was not communicating may have set Lost Communication DTCs for those modules that it was monitoring.

9.The modules which can communicate indicate the module which cannot communicate. You must clear the DTC from these modules to avoid future misdiagnosis.

Step
Action
Yes
No

1
Test the battery positive voltage circuits and the ignition voltage circuits of the module that is not communicating for an open or a short to ground. Refer to Control Module References in Body Control System for the applicable schematic. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 9
Go to Step 2

2
•Turn OFF the ignition.
•Test the ground circuits of the module that is not communicating for an open. Refer to Control Module References in Body Control System for the applicable schematic. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 9
Go to Step 3

3
•Disconnect the star connector that is connected to the module that is not communicating.
•Inspect for poor connections at the star connectors. Refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections and Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 7
Go to Step 4

4
Test the class 2 serial data circuit of the module that is not communicating for an open between the module and the star connectors. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 7
Go to Step 5

5
Inspect for poor connections at the battery positive voltage circuits, the ignition voltage circuits, the ground circuits , and the class 2 serial data circuit of the module that is not communicating. Refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections and Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 7
Go to Step 6

6
Important: Perform the set up procedure for module if required.

Replace the module which is not communicating. Refer to Control Module References in Body Control System.

Did you complete the replacement?
Go to Step 9
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7
•Install a scan tool.
•Turn ON the ignition with the engine OFF.
•Select the Display DTCs function for the module which was not communicating.
Does the scan tool display any DTCs which do not begin with a "U"?
Go to Control Module References in Body Control System for the applicable Diagnostic System Check
Go to Step 8

8
Use the scan tool in order to clear the DTCs.

Did you complete the action?
Go to Step 9
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9
Select the Display DTCs function for the modules which had the Lost Communication with XXX DTC set.

Does the scan tool display any DTCs which do not begin with a "U"?
Go to Control Module References in Body Control System for the applicable Diagnostic System Check
Go to Step 10

10
•Use the scan tool in order to clear the DTCs.
•Continue diagnosing or clearing the DTCs until all the modules have been diagnosed and all the DTCs have been cleared.
Did you complete the action?
System OK
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Old May 16, 2009 | 02:25 AM
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^ Man, thanks for all the info. Guess I need a schematic to diagnosis the problem properly myself.
Still welcome to more suggestions or maybe a certain notorious connection/wire to look out for. Thanks for all the help.
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Old May 16, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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Wires in the passeneger side door-the accordian that runs from the door into the A pillar-well known for causing funky gremlins.
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