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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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My car 99 frc has ported 243's, ported ZO6 intake, tb, .600 plus comp cam, dynatech headers, magnaflow x-pipe and catback, puts down around 425 at the wheels. When these changes were made, and the tune was done, I wasn't completely happy with the tune but was told it was the best that could be done. The car varies the ilde rpm from 600 to 1100 frequently and after some heavy driving, it likes to stumble and I have to tap the gas to make it stay running from time to time. It didn't do that when I first had it tuned. Also, I am getting pinging at low rpm's lately, I haven't noticed them at higher rpm's but it might be there, and I have changed gas stations a couple times, and even added octane booster ONCE just to see if it helped, which it didn't. What should I do? The tune is about 10 months old, so I don't think the tuner will mess with it again, and for geography purposes I am in Tampa, Florida, and haven't changed anything on the car since the tune. Thanks for any ideas.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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The weather has changed since 10 months ago, and this includes things the PCM uses as inputs...intake air temperature being a big one.

Fuel blending also does predictable but strange things to my car's LTFTs up here in the Northeast, the extra oxygen in the Winter blends has my trims up ~5-8% across the board after a few weeks each year.

Are you running a Speed Density tune, with the MAF removed and the car running in Open Loop mode?
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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my maf is intact and not running in speed density
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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are you referring to something like an idle surge once you come to a complete stop?
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 10:39 PM
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No, it isn't a surge, the car wants to die with the a/c on after I drive it for a while. It will stumble quite noticeably to the point that I have to tap the gas to keep it running. Now, when I am driving just normally, the idle will stay at about 1400 rpm, then slowly ( and i do mean slowly) settle to the 650 rpm idle speed. Its almost embarassing to sit at a light and have to wait 10 - 15 seconds to settle down and rumble. Without the a/c on, none of these issues occur, except of course for the pinging.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 10:53 PM
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I'd get scan data on it, EFILive can read the stored LTFT table for all cells and this tells a good bit about the accuracy of the VE and/or MAF tables.

Comparing this table's values between left and right cylinder banks also gives some indication of injector performance, as an underflowing injector will often show up as a significant imbalance in the LTFT % between the two banks.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 11:11 PM
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I'd try a different tuner.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 12:55 AM
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I have the exact same thing happening to mine,it was tuned to 580rwhp,now it seems like the power is way down and doing all the same as the person who started this thread.
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Any trouble codes?

Are all sensors reading correctly?

Is it using the correct spark plugs and are all firing correctly?

Manifold or Vacuum leak?

Sounds more like the tune is not correct to begin with if all sensors are performing correctly, and nothing mechanically is wrong.

The tune is hard programmed into the car and does not get lost due to battery on or off. What will change is how the car learns it's fuel trims and idle settings. Think of it like installing windows (base tune) on your PC. Every time you power on and off your computer windows is always there. Now what you typed into Word (long term fuel trims) or some other program may not be there but the base program is.
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