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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 12:25 AM
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Hey guys, I'll try to keep this short and to the point, below is the situation and issues we're having:

-My buddies 2003 base C5 w/ a custom single turbo setup

The car just had 2 brand new dual 255 Walbro pumps installed by a local shop. Now it's runs and drives but cuts out with a moderate load on it.(it's got an OK base tune on it, but still has some bugs and we're not getting into boost as of yet) The weird thing that is happening now is that with the car running it reads around 55psi of fuel pressure at idle and when lightly revving in neutral. The second you turn the ignition off the fuel pressure drops to zero. We checked several times and it always drops immediately. If you just turn the ignition to "on" and don't fire the engine the pump(s) prime and build and hold pressure but as soon as you turn it to off it drops. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the fuel pressure hold and drop VERY slowly over a matter or hours??

If this makes any sense and you guys have a clue as to what may be happening please let me know. We may ofcourse take it back to the shop but we're hoping to get an idea what the issue is before anyone tears into it.
Thanks a ton.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 12:48 AM
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Hey guys, I'll try to keep this short and to the point, below is the situation and issues we're having:

-My buddies 2003 base C5 w/ a custom single turbo setup

The car just had 2 brand new dual 255 Walbro pumps installed by a local shop. Now it's runs and drives but cuts out with a moderate load on it.(it's got an OK base tune on it, but still has some bugs and we're not getting into boost as of yet) The weird thing that is happening now is that with the car running it reads around 55psi of fuel pressure at idle and when lightly revving in neutral. The second you turn the ignition off the fuel pressure drops to zero. We checked several times and it always drops immediately. If you just turn the ignition to "on" and don't fire the engine the pump(s) prime and build and hold pressure but as soon as you turn it to off it drops. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the fuel pressure hold and drop VERY slowly over a matter or hours??

If this makes any sense and you guys have a clue as to what may be happening please let me know. We may ofcourse take it back to the shop but we're hoping to get an idea what the issue is before anyone tears into it.
Thanks a ton.
The fuel pressure should remain for many minutes(have to check the service manual to be exact). What you need to isolate is the fuel rail from the fuel pump, etc. If you have an injector sticking open, it will bleed off quickly. Other trouble shooting involves isolating the fuel return, and I believe there is a check valve in the pump assembly that can cause a bleed down as well.
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I had the RSI dual fuel pump hanger installed in my car. It does ue two Walboro 255 pumps. I ran two -AN6 lines from the output of these pumps to each fuel rail. On the front of the fuel rails, I ran lines to a pressure regulator. The output of the regulator then runs back to the tank as the return line.

In my setup, as soon as I turn off the key, my pressure goes to zero.Tis is due to the regulator having a return line.

When I want to start my car, I turn the key to the ON position, and wait for the pumps to prime for 2 seconds, then I can start my engine.
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I had the RSI dual fuel pump hanger installed in my car. It does ue two Walboro 255 pumps. I ran two -AN6 lines from the output of these pumps to each fuel rail. On the front of the fuel rails, I ran lines to a pressure regulator. The output of the regulator then runs back to the tank as the return line.

In my setup, as soon as I turn off the key, my pressure goes to zero.Tis is due to the regulator having a return line.

When I want to start my car, I turn the key to the ON position, and wait for the pumps to prime for 2 seconds, then I can start my engine.
Just curious, how much HP are you running that you need that type of fuel system?
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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Forgive the question, but is the fuel gauge mechanical or electrical?
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I am pushing around 550 RWHP. I have my fuel regulator set to 60 PSI at idle. It has a boost reference, so when I go WOT, the fuel pressure goes up to 70 PSI!
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I had the RSI dual fuel pump hanger installed in my car. It does ue two Walboro 255 pumps. I ran two -AN6 lines from the output of these pumps to each fuel rail. On the front of the fuel rails, I ran lines to a pressure regulator. The output of the regulator then runs back to the tank as the return line.

In my setup, as soon as I turn off the key, my pressure goes to zero.Tis is due to the regulator having a return line.

When I want to start my car, I turn the key to the ON position, and wait for the pumps to prime for 2 seconds, then I can start my engine.
So each pump is connected to a fuel rail separately?
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So each pump is connected to a fuel rail separately?
Yes, each fuel pump is conneted to its own fuel rail.
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