Aircondition Problem help!!
90 degrees and 60 percent today and I'm showing 33 psi on the low side at all rpm levels, and 205 psi at idle and between 255 up to 280 psi (@ 2000 rpm) on the high side depending on the fans.
needless to say good luck.
Norm
1, the vents not changing with the mode inputs indicate a vacuum problem. Do a search for ac vacuum leak and you will find all the info you need. In a nutshell, you have a leak in the vacuum line or lines that supply vacuum to the mode actuators. The most likely places these leaks occur are the vacuum nipple on the back of the intake manifold, or the connections beneath the battery tray that join the lines with the vacuum tank, and checkvalve, the one under the battery tray is usually caused by acid dripping from the battery, and can cause a lot of other damage if not cleaned up properly. The leaks can occur in other areas like the vacuum block behind the glovebox, or the control head itself, but the vast majority of the time they are in the first 2 mentioned spots.
2, The cold pass side , warm drv side is also somewhat common. Do a search for reindexing actuators and you will find many posts dealing with this problem. Basically, in a c5 with manual ac,(not dual zone auto system), it is caused by being short on refrigerant. In a dual zone system, it can be short refrigerant, or an actuator problem or both. If you have the dual zone system, first clear all codes, then with ig off, battery connected, pull fuse # 27 for no less than 2 minutes, longer is ok, then reinstall fuse # 27(located in the passenger side footwell), and listen for the actuators going through their range of motion calibration(actuator recalibration), then start the system and see if it is fixed. If it is not, you need to check the refrigerant level. The color guages are not very accurate for the c5, it is better to use a numbered set of guages. Use a low and high side set of guages and check at 2000rpm's. Look for the following ranges, ,(I'll use an example like the below post to answer 2 questions at the same time),
60% Humidity, 90 Degrees ambient temp, low side should be 36psig, high side should be 300psig, 60% humidity, 80 degrees ambient, 33psig low, and 240psig high, get very close to these pressures and you will have a properly charged system. If you want to start from empty, pull a vacuum of 29" for an hour or more, then install 1.75 lbs R134 and 4 ounces of proper ref oil. Once you have established that the ref charge is proper, and if you have cleared the codes, and did the fuse 27 pull a few times, and the system still is cold pass, warm drv, then you need to replace the drv side actuator. This applys only to the dual zone system, on the manual system, it is the ref charge almost every time for those symptoms.
Post if you need more help--Good luck
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CAUTION--WEAR EYE PROTECTION, GLOVES, AND LONG SLEEVE SHIRT THAT YOU DON'T MIND GETTING HOLES IN. BATTERY ACID IS VERY DANGEROUS AND WILL BURN THE EYES AND SKIN ON CONTACT.
1, Disconnect Battery
2, Determine all areas of damage.
3, Neutralize the acid with a water and baking soda solution.(4 OUNCES OF ARM AND HAMMER IN A GALLON OF WATER SHOULD DO IT. Caution--if the close by computers and wiring connectors are affected, you need to clean those also, by wiping them off with the solution,(USE SMALL PAINT BRUSH, TOOTHBRUSH, Q TIPS, ETC), including the terminals and contacts. Don't flood them with water, but get them clean, after neutralizing the acid use a spray contact cleaner. Make sure they are completely dry, then protect them with a plastic bag to allow you to finish the areas.
4, Use the solution on all affected areas, it will fizz when it hits the acid. use it copiously, and wash clean with water, making sure to protect against flooding electrical components. Be sure to also include the battery tray and firewall if affected. Anything the acid has touched must be cleaned. After you are sure you have neutralized and cleaned and dryed all the affected areas, touch up with paint the affected areas to protect from rust in the future.
4, Fix the vacuum lines, and any electrical wires, parts and such that may need it.
5, Wash the battery with the solution, and water, making sure to not get any solution into the battery.
6, Reinstall all parts, and the battery, if you are using a battery that may drip in the future, use a battery acid absorbing mat under it in the tray. A better choice would be to get a new Maintenance Free Battery, that won't drip. My favorite is the Delco Sealed battery listed for the car, but others, like the Optima sealed, I won't get into that controversy here. Either way if you use a mat under it, and keep an eye on it every now and then, any applicable battery should be OK.
I know it sounds like a lot of work, but it will pay off with an enjoyable future for the car. If the acid is left to perpetuate it's damage, you can be sure that you will have many future headaches from it.
Good Luck
Last edited by bestvettever; Aug 20, 2009 at 01:31 PM.
Last edited by filsvet; Aug 21, 2009 at 03:23 PM.
B0361, B0363, B0441, are all Left actuator codes, they are also history codes and not current. The H after a code means History,(intermittent, or happened in the past), C after a code means current, (happening now). HC means both. The best thing to do with the left actuator is clear the codes, do the fuse 27 pull and reinstall, and see if that fixes it. If not you need to reindex the actuator or replace it.
The C2115HC is the left rear TPM, (tire pressure monitor), the monitors battery is most likely dead. The only thing to do is replace the Left Rear tpm. If you have never replaced the tpm's in all the wheels, they are all about ready to go bad. The expected life on the early ones was about 8 to 10 years. The early c5's had a different tpm then the later ones, and the battery in them is quite difficult to replace, some have done it, you could try it, but you need to read up on it, search tpm battery replacement.
The C1780H is a loss of steering position signal, this may indicate a bad or dirty connector, or ground, or the sensor itself. The best thing to do to start is check the connectors, and the grounds for clean good contact. The C1286 is Steering Lateral Bias Malfunction, this may indicate the steering wheel is misaligned or also bad connectors or grounds. The C1281H is Active handling sensor uncorrelated, this is a history code and may mean that the grounds are dirty or loose, or that the connectors on the shock solenoids are dirty or loose or bad sensors or a bad EBTCM.
These are general ideas, there are quite a few things that could be wrong with the active handling and steering sensors. But the best place to start is by cleaning all the connectors and ground points. See Bill Curlees sticky on electrical problems to see where the grounds are. Then clear all the codes and see what comes back. History codes in relationship to the active handling system very often means an intermittent problem, and are very often caused by bad connections and grounds.
Good Luck
Good Luck
"I'm curious... even though you have no codes... start the car and turn AC on... wait until passenger side gets cool. Now go to the codes/HVAC and hold reset.
Feel if the air DOES get ice cold on the driver's side before turning hot. This was my case (with no codes) meaning the actuator reported correctly but the door position was not correct. I noticed by resetting codes it WILL open the door fully momentarily."
I tried it (note: I had no codes, but hot air on drivers side after full vacuum and refill.) All vents went full hot then all vents went full cold,
and now I have a code, B0338 H C. I can live with a code as long as I'm getting full AC.
Does anyone know what has happened? Did the doors reset? I couldn't hear anything happening.
Norm
Edit::B0338 = Air temp sensor open, It is because I still have the dash apart.
Norm
Last edited by NLKoerner; Aug 24, 2009 at 05:09 PM.












