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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 09:50 AM
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Default C5 not that "quick" in daily driving

Just got my '01 vette. Automatic. This sounds wierd, and I know I haven't learned how to drive it yet, but it seems like you really have to put your boot into the accelerator to get it jumpin when driving around town. I think it might be the rear wheel drive. I drove a front drive Prelude (only 200 hp) and that little sucker *jumped* by just barely nudging the accelerator.

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Any suggestions for ways to pep it up (without going broke)?
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 09:53 AM
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Which rear end do you have? is it the 2.73 or the 3.15?

And BTW, these cars have smooth power. The only real way to tell is to line up against another car at the track. :yesnod: :yesnod:
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 09:57 AM
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If you haven't heard about the powerloader, you might want to check it out. It changes the shift characteristics of the tranny. No more having to really press the accelerator to get the tranny to downshift. It makes a big difference.
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 10:04 AM
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If you haven't heard about the powerloader, you might want to check it out. It changes the shift characteristics of the tranny. No more having to really press the accelerator to get the tranny to downshift. It makes a big difference.
True. I've heard the Powerloader is a great upgrade, if you don't mind waiting a few months to get one. There are a few computer tuning options. Another one is Ed Wright at fastchips.com. I would suggest before you do any computer tuning, that you figure out any other upgrade you want to do first, that way all of your upgrades can be enhanced by computer tuning.
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 10:09 AM
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If you have the 2.73 rearend, then the Vette will feel slower. Also, the Vette has an electronic linkage between the accelerator and the throttle body. It is programmed to give very little throttle body opening for a lot of the first distance travelled by the accelerator, then it opens the throttle body exponentially during the last distance travelled by the accelerator. I hope this makes sense, I've been up for 26 hours now.

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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 10:16 AM
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If you haven't already, IMHO you might want to think about a mod to open up the air intake and give the LS1 room to breath ...my stock configuration always felt sluggish until I did that. Throttle response is much better now. This type of mod doesn't have to cost you a lot of $$.
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 10:32 AM
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I suspect the problem is that you don't realize how quick you're going. Line up against a Prelude and try it.

The Vette is so smooth with its power that you don't realize it.

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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 10:33 AM
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And BTW, these cars have smooth power. The only real way to tell is to line up against another car at the track. :yesnod: :yesnod:
I have to agree. My daily driver 300ZX "feels" faster than my MN6 2K2 coupe even though it has ~130 less hp at about the same weight.

If I go by the speedometer, though, the vette rips the Z a new one. The smooth power delivery of the vette is very deceiving.

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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 11:20 AM
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Default Re: C5 not that "quick" in daily driving (tscales)

I suspect the problem is that you don't realize how quick you're going. Line up against a Prelude and try it.

The Vette is so smooth with its power that you don't realize it.

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I agree. You don't think you're going as fast as you are because they feel so smooth.
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 02:05 PM
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Your RPM's are not high enough! In a Prelude the R's are kept high by the final drive ratio. The power in the vette starts at 4000 RPM and over. Wind that puppy out and you will see some power.
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Default Re: C5 not that "quick" in daily driving (MrVegas)

Just got my '01 vette. Automatic. This sounds wierd, and I know I haven't learned how to drive it yet, but it seems like you really have to put your boot into the accelerator to get it jumpin when driving around town. I think it might be the rear wheel drive. I drove a front drive Prelude (only 200 hp) and that little sucker *jumped* by just barely nudging the accelerator.

Any thoughts?

Any suggestions for ways to pep it up (without going broke)?
Really? I drove my friends 2001 prelude, and you really gotta get the RPMs up before you feel anything... I thought it was gutless.

My basically stock 2000 C5 MN6 on the other hand exploded from low RPM.
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 02:44 PM
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3.42, P/L and a mild PT-2400 will get you off the line, lickety split!
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 03:16 PM
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Look at your tach. When you get above 3K, you should really feel the gains. At the track this weekend, my son commented on how smooth and quite it felt going down the 1/4 mile, with a quiet exhaust, no raising of the front when you accelerate, no tire squealing when you tromp on the accelerated (traction control off!), etc. However, he was elated once he got at the end of the 1/4 mile and read the 12.73 @ 108 mph time slip!

A few simple mods detailed in this forum numerous times should lower your ET's! It has for us over 0.4 secs and the car still has less than 1200 miles on it.



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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 04:03 PM
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All the above advice is excellent. Beware: modifications can be hazardous do your checkbook. :D
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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 10:10 AM
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If you have the 2.73 rearend, then the Vette will feel slower. Also, the Vette has an electronic linkage between the accelerator and the throttle body. It is programmed to give very little throttle body opening for a lot of the first distance travelled by the accelerator, then it opens the throttle body exponentially during the last distance travelled by the accelerator. I hope this makes sense, I've been up for 26 hours now.

Michael
Very interesting ....

Is there any way to change this electronic linkage so that the accelerator you don't have to depress the accelerator as much to get it rippin? :confused:
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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 11:17 AM
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All the above advice is excellent. Beware: modifications can be hazardous do your checkbook. :D
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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 01:19 PM
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You need a torque converter. The problem is that you have an automatic; converter will help a bunch, I would think.

Look at your tach. When you get above 3K, you should really feel the gains. At the track this weekend, my son commented on how smooth and quite it felt going down the 1/4 mile, with a quiet exhaust, no raising of the front when you accelerate, no tire squealing when you tromp on the accelerated (traction control off!), etc. However, he was elated once he got at the end of the 1/4 mile and read the 12.73 @ 108 mph time slip!

A few simple mods detailed in this forum numerous times should lower your ET's! It has for us over 0.4 secs and the car still has less than 1200 miles on it.

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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 01:37 PM
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Default Re: C5 not that "quick" in daily driving (gasman29)

If you have the 2.73 rearend, then the Vette will feel slower. Also, the Vette has an electronic linkage between the accelerator and the throttle body. It is programmed to give very little throttle body opening for a lot of the first distance travelled by the accelerator, then it opens the throttle body exponentially during the last distance travelled by the accelerator. I hope this makes sense, I've been up for 26 hours now.

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Gasman, where did you get this info? That doesnt make sense at all. According to the technical description of the APP sensors and TAC module, there is no non-linear functionality between the pedal position and the TAC.
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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 01:58 PM
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I second the air intake suggestions!!!! You will feel the difference!

If you have 2.73 gears like I do... then it will not be neck snapping quick. You can always manually downshift for more power when needed and not wait for the car to shift itself. :yesnod:
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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 05:27 PM
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