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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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Can anyone help? This evening I replaced the stripped gear in the passenger side headlight. After completing the job, I plugged the motor headlight assembly cables back in...and now neither headlight will raise or lower. For clarification, there is no movement from the motor. What's strange is, I did not replace the drivers side yet...I simply unplugged it. I can manually raise and lower them without a problem. I double checked the connection. Any ideas? Thanks.
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well thats a new one....did you check the fuse? do the lights come on?
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 11:28 PM
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Two 10 amp fuses (3 and 4) read good with ohm meter...yes, lights come on...no power seems to be going to motors......????
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Ginger Erwin
Two 10 amp fuses (3 and 4) read good with ohm meter...yes, lights come on...no power seems to be going to motors......????
There is a headlight control module under the passenger headlight that has two plugs that go into it ? Did you plug them in ?

If your car is equipped with twilight sentenial put it to yes and see if the lights work.

Also could be micro relay 44 in the passenger footwell.
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 09:12 PM
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That was it!! Didn't plug in the headlight control module. Thanks ajg1915!!!
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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My car just started doing this: When I manually turn on the parking lights, the headlight motors activate and bring the headlights up but the lenses themselves are not lit up. I used to be able to turn on just the parking/fog lamps without having the main headlights come up. Could this be a problem with the module?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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My car just started doing this: When I manually turn on the parking lights, the headlight motors activate and bring the headlights up but the lenses themselves are not lit up. I used to be able to turn on just the parking/fog lamps without having the main headlights come up. Could this be a problem with the module?
This is a stripped gear problem ! Hope you bought 2, cause you're going to have to replace the OTHER headlight gear !
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Originally Posted by Oldvetter
This is a stripped gear problem ! Hope you bought 2, cause you're going to have to replace the OTHER headlight gear !
My headlights go up and down just fine. How is this a stripped gear problem?

Again, just to clarify, my headlight doors operate just fine but they open even when only the parking lights are turned on. They should not open with the headlight switch in the parking light position.

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My C5 did the same thing, the headlights came up with the parking lights when my one gear was stripped. All was fixed when I replaced the single bad headlight gear.

Apparently, it has to do with the headlight module operating in the "time override mode".

Normally the headlight module turns off the power when it finds a high current surge from the motors when the headlights hit their stops (either up or down) and the motors can't turn.

But this continual trying to turn at the stops, causes the plastic gear to strip, when this happens the motor can continue to turn (you may hear the machine gun noise) and their is no current surge.

There must be a "time override" built into the headlight module, and it turns off the power if a surge is not detected within a certain time period (like 5 seconds).

Well, when this "time override" feature is used enough, something gets "thrown off" and it can cause headlights to raise with just parking lights being turned on.
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Originally Posted by Oldvetter
My C5 did the same thing, the headlights came up with the parking lights when my one gear was stripped. All was fixed when I replaced the single bad headlight gear.

Apparently, it has to do with the headlight module operating in the "time override mode".

Normally the headlight module turns off the power when it finds a high current surge from the motors when the headlights hit their stops (either up or down) and the motors can't turn.

But this continual trying to turn at the stops, causes the plastic gear to strip, when this happens the motor can continue to turn (you may hear the machine gun noise) and their is no current surge.

There must be a "time override" built into the headlight module, and it turns off the power if a surge is not detected within a certain time period (like 5 seconds).

Well, when this "time override" feature is used enough, something gets "thrown off" and it can cause headlights to raise with just parking lights being turned on.
Thanks for the great reply. I will go ahead and service both headlight motors since it seems to be such a common problem for these. Paid over $50k for the car, it seems ridiculous to have these trivial problems and should've been taken care of at the factory to begin with. I guess that's one of the reasons this company is bankrupt!
I like the Corvette but when it's time to replace it, it will be an M6.

Anyone looking for a one-owner 2000 yellow convertible 6 speed with just 10k miles?
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Well, GM produced a $50,000 car with the performance of a $100,000 car, and sometimes the half-priced quality shows!
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Originally Posted by Oldvetter
Well, GM produced a $50,000 car with the performance of a $100,000 car, and sometimes the half-priced quality shows!
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
Just sometimes??????????????
The fit and finish is terrible, panel gaps, rattles, and reliability issues are like those of a typical GM, not a $50K car.

The point I was making is that I can get a 2 year old M6 convertible with a 500+ HP V-10 for about $50k (original sticker of 100K); while the car will not have zero miles, performance and reliability will be much better than a brand new Vette (sad but true, speaking from experience).

So again, if anyone would like to buy my mint condition weekender ride, yellow convertible, six speed with polished wheels and every avail. option back in 2000, just let me know. The car has no issues, besides the headlight gears which will be replaced with brass gears next week; and I've never raced or modified this car; it was only used on dry weekends, hence the less than 1,000/year miles.

I've already started looking for that perfect, gently used, M6; so let me know if you're interested. Looking to get in the mid $20's for the vette.
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