C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Header Got Bent!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-06-2009, 03:22 PM
  #21  
C5Natie
Safety Car
Thread Starter
 
C5Natie's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2007
Location: SoCal CA
Posts: 3,582
Received 132 Likes on 64 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Eric D
Have you checked with your insurance carrier? Might be covered if the damage happened while you were driving on the road. Worth a phone call.
I would have to check but Im not sure. I might givem a call just in case.
Old 11-06-2009, 03:25 PM
  #22  
C5Natie
Safety Car
Thread Starter
 
C5Natie's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2007
Location: SoCal CA
Posts: 3,582
Received 132 Likes on 64 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by corvettebob1
An interesting thing about a tube is if you dent it, it will pop out in another direction.
So unless you crush it real bad it will still flow the same volume with a dent.
I'd leave it alone unless your hearing weird sounds like a whooshing sound from the exhaust.
By heating it and pulling the dent out you stretch the metal and may do more harm then good by making a bulge.
So if you crush a pipe almost flat will it still flow the same? No. The space that the dent now has taken up use to be open space inside for the exhaust gases. Now that open space is outside with less space inside for the exhaust. displacement basically.
Old 11-06-2009, 07:31 PM
  #23  
CoreyZ06
Instructor
 
CoreyZ06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2009
Posts: 226
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

normally i cant leave well enough alone either. if something is out of place it bugs the **** out of me as well. but a lifetime of jacking with cars has given me a sense of when to leave well enough alone. in your case though, do whatever makes you sleep at night.

if i did decide to fix it, id mig weld a nail or a quarter inch bolt head actually to the pipe, heat around it and start with the slide hammer. heating one area at a time not all at once. this way, you can manipulate what moves and what doesnt when you spank the hammer. you want to actually start at the outside of the dent, and work your way to the middle with the heat. if you start at the middle, you will get an immediate bulge you will never be able to get out because you will have prematurely stretched that area. a bulge will violate Bernoulli's principle, which is kind of what you are pseudo creating in the collector, and you will do more harm than good. if you have to, cut off the bolt and reweld in a new place until you are satisfied. or weld two bolts etc. i havent held these in my hands and seen them with my own two eyes so i cant tell you what would be best.

a cold, wet rag that you dont care about should be close by, you can also manipulate the way the hot metal settles with it. i suggest you practice on a scrap piece first if you feel the technique could help you.

good luck :thumbs

Last edited by CoreyZ06; 11-06-2009 at 07:42 PM.
Old 11-06-2009, 09:08 PM
  #24  
lucky131969
Tech Contributor
 
lucky131969's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2007
Location: Dyer, IN
Posts: 15,393
Received 89 Likes on 81 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by corvettebob1
An interesting thing about a tube is if you dent it, it will pop out in another direction.
How does that work?
Old 11-06-2009, 10:15 PM
  #25  
SB99NassauBM
Intermediate
 
SB99NassauBM's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2009
Location: Wichita Falls Texas
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by C5Natie
So if you crush a pipe almost flat will it still flow the same? No. The space that the dent now has taken up use to be open space inside for the exhaust gases. Now that open space is outside with less space inside for the exhaust. displacement basically.
a quote from David Vizard:

"Dyno tests I have performed over the years inevitably show that most engines are insensitive to the shape of the passages that exhaust gasses enter once they leave the port, as long as the overall header design promotes flow. There is little measurable sensitivity to dents in the pipes, (sometimes up to 2/3 closed off in one cylinder) "

Many years ago I was worried about the same thing. A dent I had to put in my headers for clearance. (not my Vette) Even though it still bugged me I had to dent my header pipe, everyone I spoke with that had actually used a dyno with an engine with "clearance dents" In the headers assured me there was no significant power loss.
Old 11-06-2009, 10:23 PM
  #26  
C5Natie
Safety Car
Thread Starter
 
C5Natie's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2007
Location: SoCal CA
Posts: 3,582
Received 132 Likes on 64 Posts

Default

Thnx guys for the input. Im gonna take a stab at it tomorrow. Dont know what technique I'll use but I'll let you guys know how it goes.
Old 11-06-2009, 11:01 PM
  #27  
LVZO6
Instructor
 
LVZO6's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2009
Location: North Las Vegas NV
Posts: 212
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Body shop

I have a spot welder that would weld studs to the header (after cleaning coating off) and use a slide hammer that grabs the stud and pull out the dents. After your done you grind off the studs and coat it with some high temp paint. Body shops use this all the time to repair dents.
Old 11-13-2009, 01:12 AM
  #28  
The Boy Racer
Advanced
 
The Boy Racer's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2009
Location: Edmonds WA
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Not sure how you would feel about this, but on the M3 I race, we had a dent/ hole and had it cut out. A patch was then welded into place and boom... good as new.



Quick Reply: Header Got Bent!



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:53 AM.