rear end creaking with vertical movement
In a related post referenced by Timebender, the writer wrote:
"Just don't spray that silicone on the leaf spring mounts or you may get a major groan every time the car moves up or down........don't ask how I know"
I wonder if it's the protectant I sprayed on rather than worn bushings...? The car was silent until I did this. She's going up on blocks next weekend for the the winter so will pull wheels for new tires and will take the opportunity to inspect, repair and/or replace parts to get rid of this creak.
Assuming I got protectant on the leaf spring mounts, whats the fix? Silicone? Grease? A thorough cleaning? Or all of the above?? Perhaps I should do the bushings while she's up on blocks as a matter of course? They certainly are cheap enough and I can do the work myself.. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance for the help.
If you spray some WD-40 (which is not the best lubricant) you will see the groan go away. You don't have to raise he car, just get underneath and shoot towards the end of each spring. I will drool down to the contact points and should work after the supension moves up and down a few times.
Once that is determined, you can put some grease on the contact points, although it's a job. The easy way is to find a better spray lubricant (long term) than WD40.
Let us know how it goes.
so should be easy to get to. Considering she is 7 years old, should I replace the rear sway bar bushings while she's up in the air? The suspension will be free and hanging.Thanks again all.
Last edited by vetterc5; Dec 11, 2009 at 01:32 PM. Reason: typo


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Here's to Spring!
Oh, I see that was mentioned at the beginning of the thread.

Check the 4 rear crossmember bolts for tightness. I believe 81 ft lbs.
That eliminated my creaking when angling in to my driveway.
Finally took my C5 off the jack stands after replacing the rear sway bar busings (I beleive they are 19mm's), new hankook evo v12's (305/30-19 rears, 275/35-18 fronts, and they ride like a dream... no rubbing, believe it or not) on repro c6 "twin spoke" competition gray wheels, and I didn't drive two feet when the car dropped 2 inches and the creak was still there! Arrgh!
I'm going to try mrm1149's and Joshua's suggestions to lube the spring ends with a dry lubricant. That makes sense as the sound seems to be coming directly from above each wheel location. Don't forget, this all started when I liberally sprayed a protectant in each wheel well two winters ago when rebuilding/detailing the brakes. Perhaps this protectant got into the spring ends and is creating the noise. The creaking didn't creep up on me... it was there from the get go after I did the brakes and never let up all last season. Any sort of a bump would cause the creak. Only perfectly smooth roads produce a quiet ride.
Any suggestion on the dry lube, mrm1149? I will try to do this weekend and let you all know what happened.
btw: if anyone is looking to replace their tires with non-runflats, I can throw my support behind the hankooks. The difference is like night and day. The car handles better and is much quieter on less-than-smooth roads, which we have a lot of here in New England after such a nasty winter. Of course, I now a have a AAA membership.

Here's to spring and the first ride of the season.
cheers!
can someone post pics of what to look for? what to do? how about how to replace the sway bar bushings?
when messing with that stuff do you have to be careful of things under compression? assuming the wheels are off the car should be resting with the suspension completely decompressed back there, so it should be safe to disassemble stuff right?
As far as the creaking, I am waiting to hear from the others, but I can tell you the rear sway bar busings are not that hard to do, but not as easy as some say. Got mine from Ecklers, polyurethane versions. The orignals were starting to rot and it's a good thing I swapped them, even if it didn't help the creak situation. Sorry no pics. But when you get the car up and get under there, it's fairly obvious what you have to do. My c5 is an '02, so 8 years later, the rubber bushings are dry and startin got become powery. If yours is newer, maybe not so much. Have you detailed the wheels with a silicone protectant like black magic? Maybe sprayed a little bit much through the spokes? Perhaps some made it to the spring and dripped down, causing the creak. Mine is on all four corners as did all four wheel wells.
The urethane businings (got 19mm per specs) are very stiff and I really had to work at getting them in and the clamp bolted down, but it's not too bad once the you get the lower nut and upper bolt started. I had to brace myself against the garage wall to give me leverage to push the clamp down. It will help bunches if you can raise the rear. My car was on jack stand for the winter so it was ready to go. (Didn't do the fronts as I was anxious to get the car out in the unusually warm weather) You should torque per spec. I think the lower nut was 70 ftlbs, the upper bolt, 49 ftlbs. I found a handy torque reference sheet elsewhere in the forum. Here is the link. Thanks to David Farmer for providing this info. and the forum member who posted it here. (sorry, can't remember your id)
http://www.davidfarmerstuff.com/
No worries on compression or something shooting out at you. The sway bar flops around once the busing clamps are released, which is a bit annoying, but once in place, it's not too bad. Don't do what I did and tighten the one clamp before installing the second... You need the wiggle room to align the holes on the second clamp. If not, and you try to force it, you will bend the clamp (don't ask how I know...

I'm hoping to hear from the others as to what type of dry lubricant to use on the spring ends. That seems like my best bet as the car was smooth and dead quiet (except for the rumble of the worn out run flats) until I went nuts with the protectant/silcone in each wheel well. Check back later and see what comes in.
Goodluck.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrprich
"Just don't spray that silicone on the leaf spring mounts or you may get a major groan every time the car moves up or down........don't ask how I know"
""I know how you new how... I sprayed the same and now it sounds like a night in a brothel""
Sounds like my car.... I'm sure I got spray protectant (which probably contains silicon) on the leaf spring mounts.... that's when this mess started. Anyone know what I can do to negate my bad? What lubricant, if any, should I use on these mounts?
Thanks.
Just be sure you measure your stabilizer before your order. Many different sizes are available for the C5. Mine were larger than stock due to the optional Z51 (?) suspension upgrade. It's great to have my smooth riding baby back! She is a joy to drive again. Had to fix the creak before I took my daughter's finacee for a ride!
Enjoy the season. grateful that the snow is gone.















