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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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Hey guys got a check engine light last weekend just after We got through with a parade,checked for codes on the DIC this morning and there were only two with history,I cleared them and ran the codes again and still nothing current,Anyone have any suggestions?
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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Stuff happens. If there's nothing current, it's probably not significant.

Did you just fill up the fuel tank that day and maybe not ratchet it closed tight enough? That one catches a lot of people.

Did you forget to clear the oil life monitor with the last oil/filter change? That one happened to me...once.
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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Soooo, what were the codes?
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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Soooo, what were the codes?
They were history,nothing current.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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I had that a couple times with my old coupe. Never did figure anything out. Cleared it and it was fine for a looooong time. The second time it happened, I couldn't remember what I was doing the first time so I have no idea what I was doing to cause it.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bucwheat
They were history,nothing current.
Even if they were history, that's what caused the check engine light to come on. Any time the CE light comes on, there is a code stored.
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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 09:59 AM
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same deal ... CE is on, no current codes, cleared all the History and CE is still on ... take it to mechanic or try something else ?
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I thought all codes went H after shutting off car.... until next time diagnostic test repeats ? I am sure the codes you deleted showed the problem.
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
Flyingillini is 100% correct..

Almost ALL codes will show as H with the key ON and engine OFF.

That is because the systems that sense and generate most codes run with the engine ON. When the engine is turned OFF then the codes get changed from C to H.

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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by byronhunter
Any time the CE light comes on, there is a code stored.
I have to disagree. You can get a blinking CE due to misfires and get no codes whatsoever. It all depends on how bad the misfire count was. I know cause it happened to me and I had a hell of a time chasing down the issue.
Turned out I needed a CKP relearn due to replacement of my CKP sensor. Relearn solved my problem.

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It had 17 codes in "H" status. Cleared them all out. And based on previous experience with Volvos I will take the gas cap (which seems flaky and never really tightens) off and put it back on before starting the car and see which ones come back.

The codes I didn't find in the list were B2809 under 40-BCM, B1527 under 60-IPC, U1160H under 99-HVAC, and U1064 under A1-RDCM.

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I don't see a B2809 in my list of codes but
B1527 DIC Switch 4 Signal Short to GND “OPTIONS BUTTON”
Clear them all and see what comes back
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Old Sep 22, 2015 | 09:16 AM
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reset them all yesterday morning, seated the gas cap as best I could but it still feels loose so I'll look for a replacement ... nothing has come back yet, thankfully ... my commute is about 75 miles round trip, so it's had plenty of time to pop back up if there was a real problem ... the first couple of times I tried to pull codes nothing at all happened, so I suspect the button fault is for real and I may get to replace some of the electronics at some point ... I'd tried to pull them when I test drove the car in mid June and the buttons didn't work as expected, I bought the car anyway ... now that I've replaced the cheapo tires with Michelin A/S ZP's, got the dark window tint off, radiator overflow bottle replaced where the skinflint had tried to patch a leak with epoxy, clay barred it and got three coats of non cleaner wax on it, cleaned the leather as much as I dare and all the fluids replaced, it's starting to feel like it's actually mine and I can relax and drive it ... I'd started out looking for a C4 with both tops but since I was going to pay as much as for a C5 I bought the 2004 instead and it is a fun car, but still an 11 yr old fun car, so I'm OK with learning to maintain it ... thanks again to everyone who responded !

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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
I have had a couple of GM replacement gas caps that did not like to sealup and found that if I tried pulling up lightly as I turned them they would seal just fine. Worth a try before spending $15 on a replacement that does the same thing.......
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You might also try a light coating of dielectric grease on the rubber gasket to help it seal better.
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Old Sep 24, 2015 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
I have had a couple of GM replacement gas caps that did not like to sealup and found that if I tried pulling up lightly as I turned them they would seal just fine. Worth a try before spending $15 on a replacement that does the same thing.......
So far so good. I would never have thought of pulling up on the thing to get it to lock in place. But over a hundred miles and no lights or error codes. One would think the aftermarket would see a need there and fill it, literally. Thanks !
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Originally Posted by Cybermind
I have to disagree. You can get a blinking CE due to misfires and get no codes whatsoever. It all depends on how bad the misfire count was. I know cause it happened to me and I had a hell of a time chasing down the issue.
Turned out I needed a CKP relearn due to replacement of my CKP sensor. Relearn solved my problem.
Cybermind. When you get a blinking CEL, IF you read the DTCs BEFORE YOU TURN THE IGNITION OFF,,,, It will show you a P-0300 DTC if you truly had the correct amount of misfires detected.

Once you turn the ignition switch off,, that data goes away. Same with the EBTCM. Some of the DTCs that cause you to see messages in the DIC and DTC, will go away after each ignition OFF/ON cycle. They will come back once the EBTCM is powered ON goes through its test and looks for errors in the current ignition ON Cycle..
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