A good combination !!
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PLEASE !! A good (H/C)combination !!
Hello, I'm looking for some feedback/opinions on good proven combinations for an LS6(H/C). Its in a 04 ZO6, if it matters. Looking to have a decent weekend warrior, I'll be going to the drag strip a little. But mainly just a very strong street warrior to whip some ford a**.
I'm willing to change the gearing and the clutch for maximum performance. The kicker is, I'd like to reuse my 243 heads to save a little $$. But I'm willing to get them CNC'ed. Its a 20,000 mile car, relatively low miles. Looking for some dyno #'s or track times or just good street slayer combo's. Probably need to keep the short block stock to save money.
OK, let those combo's fly. I'm looking to get started soon. O, by the way, this car is bone stock. Not even a CAI. You can be as technical as you need, I've built a lot of rods, its just my first vette. This needs to be a N/A combo, heres an idea of what I'm looking at :CNCed heads, cam, springs, pushrods, CAI, exhaust, intake, TB.
Thanks
I'm willing to change the gearing and the clutch for maximum performance. The kicker is, I'd like to reuse my 243 heads to save a little $$. But I'm willing to get them CNC'ed. Its a 20,000 mile car, relatively low miles. Looking for some dyno #'s or track times or just good street slayer combo's. Probably need to keep the short block stock to save money.
OK, let those combo's fly. I'm looking to get started soon. O, by the way, this car is bone stock. Not even a CAI. You can be as technical as you need, I've built a lot of rods, its just my first vette. This needs to be a N/A combo, heres an idea of what I'm looking at :CNCed heads, cam, springs, pushrods, CAI, exhaust, intake, TB.
Thanks
Last edited by LSOHOLIC; Dec 15, 2009 at 06:55 PM.
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My honest answer is to spend $3500 on a nice blower kit (used, but complete) in the sale section. You won't even need headers at first. Very good $$/hp ratio.
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Since you insist on a N/A combo, I believe Patriot and PRC heads are the best bang for the buck. You will get 85% out of them compared to AFR's, TFS or some other name brand but pay double for that additional 15%. At least put good springs in the heads. Your cam selection will be determined by your driveability preferences. If you want a killer on the track and street and don't mind a lopey idle with some low RPM volumetric efficiency sacrifices then you will choose one cam. Also, your emissions laws may help dictate your cam choice as well. A good set of headers such as Dynatech, Kooks, LG etc, a good CAI, good tune etc. Don't be afraid to visit the parts section and get some good deals. I just sold a set of stage3 Patriot heads that were completely refurbed by Patriot for 900.00. Cams can be reused too. LS1 tech/parts is also a great source for some good deals.
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Yeah, I posted a similar question like this a couple weeks ago and received alot of replys saying go FI.
To be honest, my intentions are to go cam, 243's(CNC), headers, X-pipe w/out cats, Fast manifold, TB, McLeod RXT and gears. With the current LS6 setup, and hopeing some of the parts work with the future turbo setup.
Because I'm building a 408 with a PT-88, I'm about 6 months from being done.
So really just looking for a great N/A setup. Basically pushing the limits of drivability. When the turbo setup is finished and dialed in I'll put the 346 on the stand.
Thanks again for the info
To be honest, my intentions are to go cam, 243's(CNC), headers, X-pipe w/out cats, Fast manifold, TB, McLeod RXT and gears. With the current LS6 setup, and hopeing some of the parts work with the future turbo setup.
Because I'm building a 408 with a PT-88, I'm about 6 months from being done.
So really just looking for a great N/A setup. Basically pushing the limits of drivability. When the turbo setup is finished and dialed in I'll put the 346 on the stand.
Thanks again for the info
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As already stated, pick up a good used S/C kit and some LT headers, and then start working on your traction problems with that set up.
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You're willing spend the money on rebuilding your rear end, but not on a good set of aftermarket heads? I think you may want to reevaluate that statement
Yes, thats correct. With the new turbo motor the rear will need to be A+. I have a nice set of CNC'ed heads going on the 408 but there big bore heads, not to mention large cc. So I can't use those. So no, I don't want to buy heads. I'm willing to get mine CNC'ed and do the best I can with that.
Yes, thats correct. With the new turbo motor the rear will need to be A+. I have a nice set of CNC'ed heads going on the 408 but there big bore heads, not to mention large cc. So I can't use those. So no, I don't want to buy heads. I'm willing to get mine CNC'ed and do the best I can with that.
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You're willing spend the money on rebuilding your rear end, but not on a good set of aftermarket heads? I think you may want to reevaluate that statement
Yes, thats correct. With the new turbo motor the rear will need to be A+. I have a nice set of CNC'ed heads going on the 408 but there big bore heads, not to mention large cc. So I can use those. So no, I don't want to buy heads. I'm willing to get mine CNC'ed and do the best I can with that.
Yes, thats correct. With the new turbo motor the rear will need to be A+. I have a nice set of CNC'ed heads going on the 408 but there big bore heads, not to mention large cc. So I can use those. So no, I don't want to buy heads. I'm willing to get mine CNC'ed and do the best I can with that.
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yeah, the kit is going one of two ways. Reverse manifold or a reversed shorty set. Either way they will be wrapped so you will never no. Manifolds are good for about 800hp after that headers really pick it up, (I'm speaking about turboing). I'm a huge fan of function over fashion unless you can afford both. When I'm running big HP not to many people are going to see under the hood.
I've done two similar turbo setups on 4th gen F-bodys with great results. The engine bays seem suprisingly similar in size, so I'm hopeing for a similar install.
I've done two similar turbo setups on 4th gen F-bodys with great results. The engine bays seem suprisingly similar in size, so I'm hopeing for a similar install.
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Come on, are there no good combos that you are willing to spill the beans on ?? You guys know how these engine projects go, it could be next winter before I get all the details worked out on the turbo combination.
So I'm looking to get the LS6 thumpin !! I'm open to suggestions, aside from my heads. Hook me up with some proven combos. Some proven track times or kill stories. Cam info in correlation to gear selection that stuff.
Thanks
So I'm looking to get the LS6 thumpin !! I'm open to suggestions, aside from my heads. Hook me up with some proven combos. Some proven track times or kill stories. Cam info in correlation to gear selection that stuff.
Thanks
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Damn, whats it take to here about some well put together combos? With proven track times and or Dyno #'s.
Please people, I need some cam recomendations with gearing and clutch setup's. Basically a great all around N/A package. Please no FI comments!!
Please people, I need some cam recomendations with gearing and clutch setup's. Basically a great all around N/A package. Please no FI comments!!
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Here's just a few ideas:
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Yes, you are right. Thats why I've done that. I've talked to Livernois, TSP, SDPC, Mast, TEP, LG, Corvettes of Dallas, etc... I could go on but you get the picture.
Thats why I'm on here, to see what work in everyday setting. Like I said, I'm looking for track times, kill stories and dyno results. The vendors do make and sell great parts and products but thats their goal, to sell you parts or products. I'm just looking for an unbiased opinion on combos that work.
I mean really, how many of you bought all you parts from one vendor. I'm just wanting combos that people have had success with, with creative monetary ideas.
I know some of the more reputable vendors do there homework, I'm looking for those statements to basically be verified by the forum members.
I hope thats makes some sense.
Thanks
Thats why I'm on here, to see what work in everyday setting. Like I said, I'm looking for track times, kill stories and dyno results. The vendors do make and sell great parts and products but thats their goal, to sell you parts or products. I'm just looking for an unbiased opinion on combos that work.
I mean really, how many of you bought all you parts from one vendor. I'm just wanting combos that people have had success with, with creative monetary ideas.
I know some of the more reputable vendors do there homework, I'm looking for those statements to basically be verified by the forum members.
I hope thats makes some sense.
Thanks
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Hello, I'm looking for some feedback/opinions on good proven combinations for an LS6(H/C). Its in a 04 ZO6, if it matters. Looking to have a decent weekend warrior, I'll be going to the drag strip a little. But mainly just a very strong street warrior to whip some ford a**.
I'm willing to change the gearing and the clutch for maximum performance. The kicker is, I'd like to reuse my 243 heads to save a little $$. But I'm willing to get them CNC'ed. Its a 20,000 mile car, relatively low miles. Looking for some dyno #'s or track times or just good street slayer combo's. Probably need to keep the short block stock to save money.
OK, let those combo's fly. I'm looking to get started soon. O, by the way, this car is bone stock. Not even a CAI. You can be as technical as you need, I've built a lot of rods, its just my first vette. This needs to be a N/A combo, heres an idea of what I'm looking at :CNCed heads, cam, springs, pushrods, CAI, exhaust, intake, TB.
Thanks
I'm willing to change the gearing and the clutch for maximum performance. The kicker is, I'd like to reuse my 243 heads to save a little $$. But I'm willing to get them CNC'ed. Its a 20,000 mile car, relatively low miles. Looking for some dyno #'s or track times or just good street slayer combo's. Probably need to keep the short block stock to save money.
OK, let those combo's fly. I'm looking to get started soon. O, by the way, this car is bone stock. Not even a CAI. You can be as technical as you need, I've built a lot of rods, its just my first vette. This needs to be a N/A combo, heres an idea of what I'm looking at :CNCed heads, cam, springs, pushrods, CAI, exhaust, intake, TB.
Thanks
Todd