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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 12:59 AM
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I have what I'll call a diff whine and at different speeds it goes away when decel'ing, it is loud at times depending on speed and gear, while driving yesterday the sound/vibration was actually radiating into my drivers seat,but then on the other hand it almost feels or sounds like congestion in the exhaust, heavy throttle and you can hear/feel the drone, light throttle and coasting it goes away.
My question is do you think by jacking the rear end up and running it in gear with the wheels off the ground i may replicate the sound/vibration.
Also i just changed the gear lube and had the old stuff analized by Blackstone Labs, nothing jumped out as abnormal with 33,000 miles on factory lube.
BTW i have headers, aftermarket cats and Ti ex
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 06:38 AM
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It would help to know what model and year your car is. Has there been any mods? Is this a new issue or has it been there for a while?

It would be worth getting the car in the air to at least check the exhaust system for ground-outs (touching places it should not).

Other than changing fluid has there been any changes to the diff, mounts, or has the car been lowered?
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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Sorry, i have a 04' 6sp w/cam, headers,UD Pulley Random Tech hi flo cats and Ti ex.

I ran it with the wheels off the ground and as i expected (without a load on the drivetrain) nothing, i also for the second time checked for exh leaks by looking for exh steam (it was chilly today) and didn't see any except for what exited the tailpipes. I also tapped the cats with a large rubber mallet to hear for rattles and didnt hear anything abnormal.
Under the hood there didn't seem to be any leaks(steam or sound) from the header flanges that attach to the heads.
Thers one last thing i want to eliminate tommorrow and thats the upsized tires/rims recently installed(6 montha ago).
i have the OE's and while i would like to temp swap just the rears i dont think i can run 18's all around.
so i think i'll have to swap all four back to the originals and go for a ride, i dont think thats the prob cause iv had this combo on and i wasn't having any issues, also im not a hard driver,ie burnouts etc.
mostly highway cruiser
If nothing comes of the tire swap i guess im off to a tuner shop for professional diagnosis.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by General Lee
Sorry, i have a 04' 6sp w/cam, headers,UD Pulley Random Tech hi flo cats and Ti ex.

I ran it with the wheels off the ground and as i expected (without a load on the drivetrain) nothing, i also for the second time checked for exh leaks by looking for exh steam (it was chilly today) and didn't see any except for what exited the tailpipes. I also tapped the cats with a large rubber mallet to hear for rattles and didnt hear anything abnormal.
Under the hood there didn't seem to be any leaks(steam or sound) from the header flanges that attach to the heads.
Thers one last thing i want to eliminate tommorrow and thats the upsized tires/rims recently installed(6 montha ago).
i have the OE's and while i would like to temp swap just the rears i dont think i can run 18's all around.
so i think i'll have to swap all four back to the originals and go for a ride, i dont think thats the prob cause iv had this combo on and i wasn't having any issues, also im not a hard driver,ie burnouts etc.
mostly highway cruiser
If nothing comes of the tire swap i guess im off to a tuner shop for professional diagnosis.
18's all around is fine. we have dozens of guys here running that config. I bet it is the Pilot Bearing. That is very common on C5's and doesn't really hurt anything. G/L
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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18's all around is fine. we have dozens of guys here running that config. I bet it is the Pilot Bearing. That is very common on C5's and doesn't really hurt anything. G/L
Really, so if i throw on just the rear OE GY w/thinspokes (I have Firestone's now with diff tread pattern) it wont cause any issues for a couple mile test drive? that would be a quick easy swap for the test. thanks

OH the pilot bearing as in the clutch?
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Really, so if i throw on just the rear OE GY w/thinspokes (I have Firestone's now with diff tread pattern) it wont cause any issues for a couple mile test drive? that would be a quick easy swap for the test. thanks

OH the pilot bearing as in the clutch?
i run 18's on all 4 corners 140 mph... no errors
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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Seems like the pilot bearing shouldn't make any noise with the clutch engaged. As long as the clutch disk and the flywheel are rotating at the same speed, the pilot bearing should not be running at all. Spinning in space, yes, but not actually running.

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Seems like the pilot bearing shouldn't make any noise with the clutch engaged. As long as the clutch disk and the flywheel are rotating at the same speed, the pilot bearing should not be running at all. Spinning in space, yes, but not actually running.

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I have a 2001 6-speed coupe, all stock, with the same noise. Whine at cruise, goes away on decel. I figured it was the differential. I'd much rather it be a pilot bearing.
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I have a 02 Z06 and it has whined since I got it3 years ago. It is mild so I have not even had it checked, although I have changed the fluid twice just to see if it would go away. Its also weird sometimes if I really hammer it and shift hard getting on the freeway it doesn't whine at all? Figure that one out??
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