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Since the VR is so new, not too many people have it. Does anybody here have it in their car? What's your opinion? I was decided on the MTI setup until I read about the VR. Seems interesting, but I haven't seen any real quantifiable results. The MTI intake is just like any other (Halltech, Donaldson, Breathless,...) with regards to results. The VaraRam is completely different in that it utilizes the 2 air ducts to direct incoming air. Guess I'll just hold out a little longer before deciding.
From: Elmhurst, IL (West Suburb of Chicago) & Home of MEGA Horsepower
St. Jude Donor '06
Re: VaraRam or MTI intake? (dave zehak)
Dave,
I saw your car several weeks ago waiting for its future heart transplant. When is that monster going to be back on the road? That is going to be one bad **** black Z06. I am looking forward to springtime at Byron with some nice 50 degree weather.
I have the VaraRam intake system on my car. I installed it about 3 weeks
ago. I don't know anything about the other systems to be able to give
you a comparison. I like the VaraRam system and can feel a very huge
difference when I hit the gas. When reading other posts about the other
systems, I decided to wait for VaraRam to be put on the market. I felt it was the most economical way to increase my horsepower without spending a lot of money. I would recommend you call the owner, Patrick. He is extremely knowledgeable and was a tremendous help.
I have the VaraRam intake system on my car. I installed it about 3 weeks
ago. I don't know anything about the other systems to be able to give
you a comparison. I like the VaraRam system and can feel a very huge
difference when I hit the gas. When reading other posts about the other
systems, I decided to wait for VaraRam to be put on the market. I felt it was the most economical way to increase my horsepower without spending a lot of money. I would recommend you call the owner, Patrick. He is extremely knowledgeable and was a tremendous help.
How long did it take to install? I read on another Forum it took 5 hours. I didn't think the projected time would be that long.
I'd still like to see Patrick do some testing on stock cars. You'd think he would have done that somwhere along the line since most guys first mod is their airbox. The Vortex unit has been a great value at $225 or so for quite awhile...if this one is that much better peformer for the difference in price, we'll be adding it to our line for sure. :)
It's hard for customers to believe the gains without hard proof, we see that here on the Forums and I hear that on the phone when advising mmebers on their modifcation plans.
When I talked to Patrick quite awhile ago, he was going to do some testing and become a supporting vendor here on the Forum. Hopefully he will do that and we can see some side by side testing of similar products from the 'new kid' on the block so to speak.:)
It did take me some time to install the system due to the fact that I'm not a mechanic and have never done any modifications to any of my other corvettes. Also, I was not in a hurry because I live in the Northeast and my car was not going anywheres because of the weather. I wasn't real concerned about numbers because I was just looking for a boost in power, I'm not into racing with my car. :flag
It did take me some time to install the system due to the fact that I'm not a mechanic and have never done any modifications to any of my other corvettes. Also, I was not in a hurry because I live in the Northeast and my car was not going anywheres because of the weather. I wasn't real concerned about numbers because I was just looking for a boost in power, I'm not into racing with my car. :flag
I hear ya there.:) However, almost everyone of my customers wants to talk numbers and gains to compare to other products. These Forums do too.
I just got a call from a Vararam customer a second ago...tells me they(he and his dad) got good gains but the install wasn't 'perfected' as such. I think he will logon and post those comments as to specifics at which tracks and all.
I followed the instructions and pictures that Patrick sent with the system. Like I previously stated, I didn't have any problems installing it. Everything
fit where it was supposed to and Patrick was only a phone call away,24-7 :)
I followed the instructions and pictures that Patrick sent with the system. Like I previously stated, I didn't have any problems installing it. Everything
fit where it was supposed to and Patrick was only a phone call away,24-7 :)
He(Greg) told me the concerns he had were passed on to Patrick. I see on the website that there is already a revison over the original.
How long did it take you, working time that is? It would be nice to know for potential customers like yourself who don't work on cars much, if at all.
I would say 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 hours, but I didn't work on the car every night
when I got home from work. I think someone that works on their car
all the time could cut the time down alot :chevy :chevy
Did you cut any more drainage holes as the website states? I get questions from customers all the time when buying aftermarket intakes with their concern for water ingestion.
The way the front of the car comes down, I don't see how any water could
get in unless it was shooting in at just the right angle. I didn't drill the holes
any bigger because I don't ever drive my car if there is any chance of bad
weather. I think it is designed well enough that anyone that did get caught
in some bad weather wouldn't have to worry. The last time I talked to
patrick he was designing a filter that water wouldn't penetrate. That would
also help if any water were ever to reach that far up. :chevy :chevy
The way the front of the car comes down, I don't see how any water could
get in unless it was shooting in at just the right angle. I didn't drill the holes
any bigger because I don't ever drive my car if there is any chance of bad
weather. I think it is designed well enough that anyone that did get caught
in some bad weather wouldn't have to worry. The last time I talked to
patrick he was designing a filter that water wouldn't penetrate. That would
also help if any water were ever to reach that far up. :chevy :chevy
There are pre filters designed for jet skis already available and they are flexible. I'd certainly think this would slow down the ram air, but, if he finds a non water-penetrating filter, then all the better.:)I wonder what it would flow?
If you talk to Patrick again, have him sign on and talk abut the product. He told me last year he watches the Forums, especially this one.:)
Thanks for the info, Max, sounds like you are on top of things up there.:cheers:
From what patrick said the filter also had better air flow than the one that
he has been shipping out. I think he said it wouldn't be long before they
would be ready for shipping. :cheers: :cheers:
Maybe he will come on and share those numnbers with us.:) This sounds like a real winner, I just would like to get the most accurate info my customers will ask for. :yesnod:
This is a good debate...these two systems are very similar in performance. The MTI's only disadvantage is it's location in the radiator shroud and how that will effect engine cooling. The VR's disadvantage is only Z06 related in that the stock screens will restrict airflow. For maximum performance with the VR they'll need to be removed...kinda like any pre-02 MAS. Everyting else about the two system is a positive IMO.
I recently dynoed my car and saw a small gain of 4 and 4 but that gain is the result of the '01 intake manifold that was also installed after my previous test. Peak numbers are now 344 and 353. Click here for a look. I feel the test also proves that the VR performs the same as any other cold/ram air system on the dyno. Until I go to the track I will not know the benefits of the VR in the environment it was designed for...at speed.
Initial installation time for me was around 2 hours. I had to go back in to make some adjustments which made the total time of ~4 hours.
The water repelling filter will be one of the foam race filters that will be available shortly. It works because of the foam type, it's construction and the oil that is used within it. In person it looks a lot like water rolling off a duck's back...they just don't mix :D
The only way I see a hydrolocking scenario with the VR is if the nose gets submurged...the same risk as with the stock airbox configuration.