Car won't start
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Car won't start
I can hear an audible click when I turn the key but it doesn't fire up.
My battery volt was at 11.4 and 11.6
I also tried to jump start the car but it didn't work.
The volt was at 12.4 when I tried to jump start it.
My battery volt was at 11.4 and 11.6
I also tried to jump start the car but it didn't work.
The volt was at 12.4 when I tried to jump start it.
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From: Redding CA
Could be a bad starter/solenoid...
Do you have any codes in the DIC?
Do you know how to check?
It could also be just your key being dirty or a bad ignition switch or just a broken little part in the ignition switch itself.
Check codes first, if none...I'd say more than likely your starter if you're hearing a click.
See if you can get someone to turn the key while you listen down by the back of the passenger side of the engine, down low. That's where the starter resides.
Do you have any codes in the DIC?
Do you know how to check?
It could also be just your key being dirty or a bad ignition switch or just a broken little part in the ignition switch itself.
Check codes first, if none...I'd say more than likely your starter if you're hearing a click.
See if you can get someone to turn the key while you listen down by the back of the passenger side of the engine, down low. That's where the starter resides.
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C1232
B1001
U1301
U1016
U1244
So I tried starting it up again and nothing works.
I can hear the fuel pump priming..and the normal buzzing and humming.
I can hear an audible click under my car in the front of it though.
Maybe it is the starter?
B1001
U1301
U1016
U1244
So I tried starting it up again and nothing works.
I can hear the fuel pump priming..and the normal buzzing and humming.
I can hear an audible click under my car in the front of it though.
Maybe it is the starter?
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From: Belcamp MD
Check out this article. Same thing happened to me last year. I thought it was the wires from the battery to the starter but ended up being the starter. Bought a used one off of this site for $50. Easy swap just make sure to keep the wires off of the manifold/headers
Hope this helps,
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...ont-start.html
Hope this helps,
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...ont-start.html
Melting Slicks
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From: Redding CA
Yeah man, if you're hearing a click from the engine compartment. My bet would be either battery or starter/solenoid.
Your C 1232 code is unrelated.
I can't find B 1001 or U 1244...the U code is more than likely some type of loss of communication. Possibly with your TCS module due to the C 1232 and U 1301. the other U code is common and not something to worry about.
Get the battery tested and make sure it's good, if it's not the battery...get your starter out and tested as I'm pretty sure that's it.
code list:http://www.stengel.net/diccodes.htm
Your C 1232 code is unrelated.
I can't find B 1001 or U 1244...the U code is more than likely some type of loss of communication. Possibly with your TCS module due to the C 1232 and U 1301. the other U code is common and not something to worry about.
Get the battery tested and make sure it's good, if it's not the battery...get your starter out and tested as I'm pretty sure that's it.
code list:http://www.stengel.net/diccodes.htm
Melting Slicks
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From: Yorktown Virginia
Take the battery out and have it load tested. Had an identical thing happen to my truck last week. Battery measured 12.67 with a digital meter across the posts yet when you turned the key there was total silence. Load test showed it was internally failed. New battery and it started right up.
Melting Slicks
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MAKE SURE THE PERSON STARTING THE KEY HAS THE CAR IN NEUTRAL, E BRAKE SET ETC.. if you have a 6 spd.
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Melting Slicks
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The hammer thing doesnt work all the time, we had a samurai(yes I know embarrasing but i learned how to drive stick on it so...) that the starter went out on and once in a while the hammer thing worked but not even 50% and on out tractor it didnt work at all.
Melting Slicks
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From: Redding CA
yeah, well it's free. it's worth a shot because if it works you know it's a the solenoid. it worked on SBC's great tons of times.
Melting Slicks
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if he can get it there
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From: Belcamp MD
Mine did the same thing too....until I got stuck somewhere that wasnt home
I even took the starter to the local part store to be tested and the thing worked. Correct me if Im wrong but maybe they are intermittent sometimes.
I even took the starter to the local part store to be tested and the thing worked. Correct me if Im wrong but maybe they are intermittent sometimes.
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From: Anthony TX
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St. Jude Donor '08
If you don't do the WHACK TEST to the starter,,,,,,, your NEVER going to be able to pin point the issue. If you whack the starter when it wont crank and it cranks when you whack the starter,,,,the solenoid IS the issue. Plain and simple. bad solenoids are a well documented issue and intermittent no stats are the most common solenoid fault.
You also need to inspect the wiring on the solenoid to make sure that the wires are clean and tight:
The starter it self is pretty bullet proof. I replaced my bad solenoid and Problem solved!
BC
You also need to inspect the wiring on the solenoid to make sure that the wires are clean and tight:
The starter it self is pretty bullet proof. I replaced my bad solenoid and Problem solved!
BC
Last edited by Bill Curlee; Jul 25, 2010 at 11:32 AM.
Melting Slicks
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This is also more common in the heat...I'll bet it's hotter at your place now than the last 6 months.
We told him to check the batter FIRST..
Anyway, if it just started after 30 tries...I'm even more sure it's your solenoid
We told him to check the batter FIRST..
Anyway, if it just started after 30 tries...I'm even more sure it's your solenoid
Melting Slicks
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From: Yorktown Virginia
well you are probably going to want to go buy a new solenoid since that is about the only thing that would do that, besides dirty contacts, and you dont want it to happen again when you arent at home. Plus they arent that expensive 50-75$
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1998 C5 Conv. intermitten no start?
Mr. Curlee, as most memebers would agree you have saved us lots of $$$ and headaches and thanks! Your info helped me much! My 1998 C5 has an intemittent no start which appears to be aggravated if i dont use the car for 3 or 4 days. NO codes/repeat NO codes. with the forums help i changed my ignition switch. seemed okay for a few starts on the same day I changed the switch but then problem surfaced again a few hours later- it is a simple: turn key to start and starter wont engage/nothing happens. Since everything is still apart i figured to change the cylinder but have not done this yet. Next is to clean/check all grounds as this seems to be a problem with C5s- one last piece of info (and all the forum members will kick my you know what for this: I do drive on a dirt road (scraped) to get to and from my house about 2 miles of this road each direction. Only other piece of info i could add (also why i think i need to inspect/change/clean all the grounds) is i also get intermittent (but almost only occurs after i hit a bump) service abs or charge system fault message, but again NO codes.
Owe you a beer! Thanks George
Owe you a beer! Thanks George
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From: Huntersville, NC
Something else to look for
Had the same situation. Turned out the floor mat had folded over and kept the clutch pedal from going all the way in and making the safety switch that prevents engine start. I had just replaced the battery and thought the new one was bad. A bunch of stuff turns off, like the blower motor, etc when you crank the engine, so you think you have a bad battery.
Felt really smart when I figured that one out! Wife even noticed the carpet as I was pawing around looking for fuses. She said "maybe that's it!" (turns out it was. I got "told ya so" 's all the way home).
:o
Felt really smart when I figured that one out! Wife even noticed the carpet as I was pawing around looking for fuses. She said "maybe that's it!" (turns out it was. I got "told ya so" 's all the way home).
:o
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Had the same situation. Turned out the floor mat had folded over and kept the clutch pedal from going all the way in and making the safety switch that prevents engine start. I had just replaced the battery and thought the new one was bad. A bunch of stuff turns off, like the blower motor, etc when you crank the engine, so you think you have a bad battery.
Felt really smart when I figured that one out! Wife even noticed the carpet as I was pawing around looking for fuses. She said "maybe that's it!" (turns out it was. I got "told ya so" 's all the way home).
:o
Felt really smart when I figured that one out! Wife even noticed the carpet as I was pawing around looking for fuses. She said "maybe that's it!" (turns out it was. I got "told ya so" 's all the way home).
:o
just to be clear, I'm not making fun of ya..heck I lost my roof
Melting Slicks
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From: Redding CA
Mr. Curlee, as most memebers would agree you have saved us lots of $$$ and headaches and thanks! Your info helped me much! My 1998 C5 has an intemittent no start which appears to be aggravated if i dont use the car for 3 or 4 days. NO codes/repeat NO codes. with the forums help i changed my ignition switch. seemed okay for a few starts on the same day I changed the switch but then problem surfaced again a few hours later- it is a simple: turn key to start and starter wont engage/nothing happens. Since everything is still apart i figured to change the cylinder but have not done this yet. Next is to clean/check all grounds as this seems to be a problem with C5s- one last piece of info (and all the forum members will kick my you know what for this: I do drive on a dirt road (scraped) to get to and from my house about 2 miles of this road each direction. Only other piece of info i could add (also why i think i need to inspect/change/clean all the grounds) is i also get intermittent (but almost only occurs after i hit a bump) service abs or charge system fault message, but again NO codes.
Owe you a beer! Thanks George
Owe you a beer! Thanks George
You've got a few different issues bud. Start another thread and list them somewhat separate so it will be a little easier to sort.
One thing, when your "service ABS, service traction control system" message appears in the DIC. YOU DO HAVE A CODE. Check by pressing and holding number 4 and simultaneously pressing number 1 four times.
Start one up in this section but this would be best dealt with in another thread I think as some of your issues are unrelated to this one..