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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 09:29 PM
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Had a harmonic balancer changed last week and today my flywheel shattered under normal driving conditions. Could they be related???
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Had a harmonic balancer changed last week and today my flywheel shattered under normal driving conditions. Could they be related???
Wow Which balancer was installed? Any pics of the flywheel? Was the flywheel stock?
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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The serpentine belt came off last week. The dealer determined the harmonic balancer was bad. I had them charge it. I picked up the car after paying a $600 bill. I drove three miles and the belt came off again!!!! I took it back to the dealer and they changed the idler pulley and the tensioner at another $200. Drove it for a week now and then today the stock flywheel blew and shattered the torch tube housing.
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The serpentine belt came off last week. The dealer determined the harmonic balancer was bad. I had them charge it. I picked up the car after paying a $600 bill. I drove three miles and the belt came off again!!!! I took it back to the dealer and they changed the idler pulley and the tensioner at another $200. Drove it for a week now and then today the stock flywheel blew and shattered the torch tube housing.
Yikes....sorry for the misfortune. Any accident history here? To have a flywheel shatter is soo serious, and considering they installed a factory balancer....something does not add up. What is f'd up, is if they misdiagnosed the balancer, and it only needed a tensioner. PM EricD, I believe he could speak to this subject at length.
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 10:22 PM
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For a balancer change to do this, it would have to be WAY out of balance. You would feel it and hear it if that were thee case.
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 11:32 PM
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Did they give you the harmonic damper that came off your car?

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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 02:02 AM
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THE STOCK OEM STEEL FLYWHEEL SHATTERED? DEAR GOD, YOU KNOW HOW THICK AND HEAVY THOSE THINGS ARE? I DIDN'T THINK ANYTHING COULD BREAK ONE. HAD TO BE A BAD FLYWHEEL FROM THE MANUFACTURER WHEN THE CAR WAS BUILT

ANY PICTURES ???????
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 03:43 AM
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There would have had to have been some SERIOUS heat fractures of the flywheel and some serious launches to bust one-I don't think I've seen one do this. Clutches YES, flywheels no.
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I don't think they are related to the problem.
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As I mentioned in the other thread he posted in general....

It wasn't a balancer that did it.... it was probably a bad front Torque Tube bearing....

Mine failied and then the clutch was getting extreme sideload and failed violently.

I'm guessing that the OP's clutch shattered and took the flywheel and TT bellhousing with it. It just happens to be a coincidence in time that the balancer was changed recently.

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Could be they incorrectly jammed the flywheel to remove and install the balancer bolt and cracked or broke something in the bell housing.
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Originally Posted by rebelheart
Could be they incorrectly jammed the flywheel to remove and install the balancer bolt and cracked or broke something in the bell housing.
Thats what I'm thinking too.
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Originally Posted by rebelheart
Could be they incorrectly jammed the flywheel to remove and install the balancer bolt and cracked or broke something in the bell housing.
If it's a 6 speed car you just put it in gear to do the balancer....
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^ Thats how it should be done. Doesnt mean thats how they did it. We are just trying to come up with a connection between the balancer job and the flywheel.
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note"incorrectly"
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Lee miles transmission in bowling green KY installed a remanufactered jasper auto transmission in April. About 1500 miles logged since trans was replaced..
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Originally Posted by NVR_L8
Lee miles transmission in bowling green KY installed a remanufactered jasper auto transmission in April. About 1500 miles logged since trans was replaced..
BIG DIFFERENCE in a "Flywheel" (HEAVY) from a 6-speed car and a "Flexplate" (skinny) that you find in auto-cars.

You incorrectly labled a thin flexplate as a flywheel and it had us all confused.

So yes, there could have been damage to the flexplate during the install of the balancer because they have to drop the starter and use a tool to (there's actually a special tool for this) hold the engine from spinning over while torquing the balancer bolt. Who knows what happened on the install, but I can tell you that I DOUBT harmonics killed the flexplate on it's own...

OR, the flex plate was damaged (or was faulty) during the transmission install and it's taken this long to fail.

I would change the front torque tube bearing while in there because it can still do to the flexplate like what happened to my clutch.
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Default Thanks guys

I havn't had time to post.... Yes it is an automatic trans with a flex plate. The ring gear seperated from the flexplate. During the harmanic balancer change they inserted a tool in the starter mount to engage the ring gear teeth on the flexplate to lock the engine while they torqued the harmonic balancer bolts.
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 09:20 PM
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Default GM Customer service

I called GM Customer Service 10-15-2010 and explained the situation. I also suggested that the dealer that repared the harmonic balancer compromised the ring gear when torquing the balancer bolts, which in turn caused the ring gear to seperate from the flexplate and shatter the bell housing.

I will let you know the outcome. I hope GM will stand behind there dealers bad work.

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