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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 07:18 PM
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I am experiencing some issues with my active handling. Driving down the Interstate, it has been activating from time to time. The road surface is smooth and dry. The car drives perfectly straight, but will make small jerks with the steering wheel when the active handling kicks in. The DIC is not showing any codes at all, and no warning lights are on. The car is a completely stock 03 coupe.

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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 07:33 PM
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Had that happen when the steering position sensor went bad.
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 08:17 AM
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UPDATE: It finally threw a code this morning, after about a week of no codes. I have the 28-TCS: C1287 (Steering Sensor Rate Malfunction) code.

Looks like it it time for a new steering position sensor?

How long do these things last? I had it replaced just over 2 years ago.
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 08:34 AM
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Is the front end out of alignment?
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 08:48 AM
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100% Check your alignment. If the wheel is off center when your going straight, the car thinks the sensor is bad. Check that alignment and make sure that your steering wheel is dead nuts centered when your going straight down a flat level road with minimal crown!!

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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 11:39 AM
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Thanks for all the input!

I am going to take it in on Saturday morning to have the alignment checked. Everything seems straight, but better to have it checked by professionals and their machines. Hopefully this will fix the problem, not to mention cheaper too.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 12:13 AM
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I have had this same problem constantly for the last year. AH comes on every 10 minutes or so. I have put the car in the shop repeatedly for this problem and no one has been able to do anything about. Had alignment done and it didn't fix the problem. This week had the steering position sensor replaced for $650.00 and the problem has still not been resolved. Hope you are able to detect the problem and you have better luck than myself.
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...iy-thread.html Check this thread, there is a great write up on this subject.

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Originally Posted by dgrant3830
Is the front end out of alignment?
My centerline line on streeing wheel has been off for mouths.Going straight down the road my streeing wheel is at 11 o'clock,but just yesterday i got SERVICE ACTIVE HANDLING code c1286 is this connected why now?
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Steering wheel that is NOT centered may or may not cause issues with EBTCM operation. Normally it will cause a lot of AH warm up messages but, it can cause drivability issues. That’s the FIRST place to start and eliminate that issue.

Reading the DTCs as soon as you have ANY EBTCM issues is very important. DO NOT turn the ignition OFF as that will reset the module and some of the active DTCs will reset and go away.

When you have AH driving on a normal straight dry road, the EBTCM is either :

- Getting false or in accurate signals from one or more of the sensors causing brake pulsations to correct for it, (i.e. steering wheel off center injecting false steering correction when you trying to go STRAIGHT.

- Damaged or defective SWPS. If the SWPS is not working correctly, it will give false signals or a DTC.

- WSS errors.

- YAW or accelerometer errors or issues.

Try to read the DIC and capture the DTCs generated as soon as you can when the issues happens or is happening.

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I couldn't agree more. Bill is on the money with the advice.
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I still have not had a chance to get my alignment checked, but I haven't had the issue every day either. It seems to pop up maybe once every two weeks now. One thing I have noticed is that my rear tires are getting pretty worn, so I am thinking that may have something to do with it. The rear grip may not be there as much as it should. Like I said, this is just a thought.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 06:05 PM
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Okay, so I spoke too soon! I knew better than to post anything else on this subject.

On my way home today, the active handling kicked in, jerked my steering wheel, and the service vehicle soon information popped up on the screen. So, as soon as I get home, I check the codes, and find the same code. I checked them while the car was parked and still running, to make sure the ignition cycling didn't do anything.

Now, get this... when I reset the code, with the engine running, I swear I heard what sounded like a mechanical motor disengage from somewhere under the hood. I don't remember hearing this before. Any thoughts?
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What DTC was it? This one ( 28-TCS: C1287 (Steering Sensor Rate Malfunction) code. )

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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 06:53 PM
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i get the 1287 garbage once a day... along with the service active handling... blah blah blah. i had an alignment done... and im not forking out 650 bucks for a new sensor. i just live with it...
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 08:44 PM
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What DTC was it? This one ( 28-TCS: C1287 (Steering Sensor Rate Malfunction) code. )

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Bill, yes it was the 28-TCS C1287 again. It puzzled my as to why I heard the electric motor noise this time.
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Now, get this... when I reset the code, with the engine running, I swear I heard what sounded like a mechanical motor disengage from somewhere under the hood. I don't remember hearing this before. Any thoughts?
What you probably heard was the BPMV motor turning on cycling the brake fluid at the bpmv/ebtcm
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Originally Posted by dgrant3830
What you probably heard was the BPMV motor turning on cycling the brake fluid at the bpmv/ebtcm
EXACTLY!!!
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 02:09 AM
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i get the 1287 garbage once a day... along with the service active handling... blah blah blah. i had an alignment done... and im not forking out 650 bucks for a new sensor. i just live with it...
You may not. I won't preach about yours and others safety but the sensor is $80. DIY or dealership labor is ~$250.
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 07:35 PM
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I had the alignment checked today, and everything is fine with that. If there were issues with the steering position sensor, would it malfunction every time I drive the car? It seems to happen just every so often right now.
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