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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 12:06 AM
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Ok well I had previous brake problems before. After replacing all the Z06 C5 calipers, brake pads, rotors, master cylinder, proportional valve bleeding the system correcting and installing new SS brake lines my 2000 C5 pedal still has erratic pedal feel to it.

Sometimes I press the brakes and they are really hard other times they feel normal. I even have to push the pedal down pretty hard to even get the back brake lights to light up. At first I thought it was the brake booster but brakes are sticky from time to time aswell.

I really confused at this point I have troubleshooted by disconnecting connector to the ABS and driving and still no difference. Should I just change the brake booster or I'm I missing something?
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Ok well I had previous brake problems before. After replacing all the Z06 C5 calipers, brake pads, rotors, master cylinder, proportional valve bleeding the system correcting and installing new SS brake lines my 2000 C5 pedal still has erratic pedal feel to it.

Sometimes I press the brakes and they are really hard other times they feel normal. I even have to push the pedal down pretty hard to even get the back brake lights to light up. At first I thought it was the brake booster but brakes are sticky from time to time aswell.

I really confused at this point I have troubleshooted by disconnecting connector to the ABS and driving and still no difference. Should I just change the brake booster or I'm I missing something?
With all new parts, the brakes should stop like "new" brakes. Some questions....were the brakes bled correctly...no air in the lines. Were the pads properly seated to the rotors...example brake hard at 30/45/60 mph.
Did you do a complete system bleed and replace with fresh fluid?
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Yea I did a traditional brake bleed one person in the car one outside with the following bleeding procedure RR, LR, RF and LF. I replaced the fluid with Brembo LCF 600.
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Yea I did a traditional brake bleed one person in the car one outside with the following bleeding procedure RR, LR, RF and LF. I replaced the fluid with Brembo LCF 600.
You might want to try having the brakes power bled. When I replaced my line with SS lines I used a few bottles of fluid before I got all of the air out of the system doing the old 2 person pump method. I guess with all the ABS stuff on these cars they hide air a little better than older ones. That's just my observation.

I had a problem with one of the bleeder valves so that added to the issue. I went and bought one of those power bleeders that hooks up to an air compressor. That thing sucked every bit of air our of the system. If you don't want to buy one just find a shop that will do it. I'd try that before you just start replacing brake components.

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I am not sure about GM's,but Chryslers with ABS require the use of the DRB (electronic diagnostic device) to bleed the ABS system.
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In my experience air in the hydraulic lines manifests as spongy brakes that require rapid pumping to generate a firm pedal. Your described symptom sounds different. If it were my car I'd temporarily isolate the vacuum from the boost diaphragm to see if there is any difference in pedal feel. There may be an intermittent obstruction in that circuit somewhere.

Disclaimer: Internet diagnostics are imprecise and often a shot in the dark. I mean no offense to anyone: it's only my opinion.
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