would it be easier to pull the engine?
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would it be easier to pull the engine?
Ok, I'm about to start a big round of mods on my 2000 coupe. Ill be doing Cam, headers and clutch all at the same time. Would it be any easier to just pull the engine or should I do it the conventional way? Thoughts?
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Would it be easier to install a cam with the engine on the stand, of course. Easier to install the clutch to the flywheel with the engine out...you bet. Does it make sense to pull the engine for the mods you have listed.....hell no.
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Well maybe it does make sense since he'll have most of the rear of the car out for the clutch, dropping the engine cradle is no big deal at that point.
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yes it makes lots of it.... just leave the trans and TT in the car.. take the front cradle down out of the way and pull it out thats how I did mine...done it several times pm me if you need any help..JOHN
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I would definitely take it all apart. If you are going to spend the money on quality parts, then do a quality job assembling it. Get a service manual and tackle the job yourself. You will learn an incredible amount about how the car works, and there are plenty of other mods to do while you have it in pieces that are much easier at this point. If you do a clutch, buy an adjustable master, new pilot bushing/bearing, speed bleeder, etc. I did it, and I gained a ton of knowledge. There are enough resources on this forum to help with doing anything to the car. Just be patient! Depending on mileage, replace torque tube bushings so you dont have to tear it apart later. It takes much less time to do it right once rather than half assed twice.
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I don't see the advantage of taking the engine out. If you have a lift and plan on dropping the assembly off the bottom, I can see it making it a little easier to work on, but other than that it only seems like you made it a bigger job.
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After you pull the exhaust, steering rack, torque tube, what all it left holding the engine in the car? Maybe a dozen sensor connections and 2 motor mount bolts. If you have the equipment to hoist or drop the engine out, then it is a wash either way in my humble opinion...
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If you have headers then you probably have to remove them to drop the motor, and to get those off usually requires removing the starter, then you have the AC system to worry about and disconnecting the front shocks/control arms to drop that down and calipers and brake lines to watch......
I would leave the motor in, and I own a lift and lots and lots of tools....
If it were November 1st and the OP wanted a winter project I would agree more, but now is the time the cars should be getting ready to come out of hibernation... removing the engine just takes more time and opens up more chances to screw something up....imho..
I would leave the motor in, and I own a lift and lots and lots of tools....
If it were November 1st and the OP wanted a winter project I would agree more, but now is the time the cars should be getting ready to come out of hibernation... removing the engine just takes more time and opens up more chances to screw something up....imho..
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I was thinking it would just come out the top and not have to pull the rear end. I will doing headers, Cam, and clutch all at once. Seemed like if all that was unbolted already there would just be 2 motor mounts and a few connectors and hoses left. I guess I was trying to avoid pulling the rack again and the rear. Ill look at it a bit closer and see what happens.
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Well sometimes it does make sense to do things the less obvious method, back in my dealership days that was the way I did clutch jobs in the BB Chevelles and Camaros.
That way I always beat the flat rate time!
He's going to install headers too so why go to all the work of pulling the driveline out and reinstalling it and then put in the headers and cam.
That way I always beat the flat rate time!
He's going to install headers too so why go to all the work of pulling the driveline out and reinstalling it and then put in the headers and cam.
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I sure don't mean to be an *** but enough is enough. Sorry
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Lucky, maybe instead of calling everyone names and coming off like an a$$ hole all the time maybe you could get the chip off you shoulder and help out with out the smart *** attitude or just not participate at all. Seems like every time I see one of your posts they are negative or your smarter than everyone else. Maybe you are but the attidude is getting in the way more than the constructive criticism.
I sure don't mean to be an *** but enough is enough. Sorry
I sure don't mean to be an *** but enough is enough. Sorry
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Lucky, maybe instead of calling everyone names and coming off like an a$$ hole all the time maybe you could get the chip off you shoulder and help out with out the smart *** attitude or just not participate at all. Seems like every time I see one of your posts they are negative or your smarter than everyone else. Maybe you are but the attidude is getting in the way more than the constructive criticism.
I sure don't mean to be an *** but enough is enough. Sorry
I sure don't mean to be an *** but enough is enough. Sorry
....priceless. You want to follow poor advice.....no problem...your car....your time....your choice.
I make not apologies for pointing out the absurd, and since my comments offend you, I'll steer clear of your threads in the future.
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