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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 02:31 AM
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I need to replace my front tie rods. Does anyone have a suggestion on what I should replace them with? I have a 2002 coupe, upgraded sway bars. It is a daily driver, but I do drive it aggressively. Thanks in advance for any advice!

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Bump! Does no one have any suggestions? I can't keep my alignment because both of my front end tie rods are loose
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Bump! Does no one have any suggestions? I can't keep my alignment because both of my front end tie rods are loose
AC Delco is OEM I think. Can't you just replace the ends?
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Another possibility is to replace them with spherical rod ends. The big advantage with this is that you can correct for bump steer. You would need to find a shop familiar with making these adjustments though, as its not that common a modification. If you go this route, also buy 'baloon seals' for the rod ends, or they will start making noise in no time flat. The rod ends shown are part of a 'bump steer kit' available from several forum vendors. The seals you will have to source seperately.

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Well,,, did that answer your quetion?? Which way did you go??

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Sorry, been out in the field training for the last week :/ I haven't quite figured it out yet. Are the heavy duty tie rod replacements the same as what comes on the corvette stock? I would like to get the spherical ones, but I don't like to get things that I can't really do myself. I already have a lifetime alignment warranty from firestone anyways! Thanks a ton for your guys' advice.
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Keep it simple...OEM ends and reset the toe
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Originally Posted by edaniel7
Keep it simple...OEM ends and reset the toe
I agree 100%! Ive seen some C5s and C6s driven EXTREMELY hard and they use the standard steering stuff.

On the other hand,, if you drive your car like that sever times a day all week and it was a purpose built dedicated TRACK CAR, you would need a WHOLE LOT MORE than just heavy duty tie rod ends.

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Simple is always the best. With that said, I've had these sphericals on my street car for over four years and never even looked at them. They are very quiet and reliable, when sealed properly. The only advantage they really serve is to give the alignment guy the ability to adjust them up-down, as well as in-out. This is really handy on a lowered car where the tie rods are now pointing towards the sky.
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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So if I went with spherical tie rods and lowered my car an inch on stock bolts, how hard would it be to find someone who knew what they were doing to perform the alignment on the car?
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I used the Moog parts on the front and used the heavy duties from Corvette central on the back. You can't go wrong with the moog parts. A reputable alignment shop should be able to do a proper 4 wheel alignment for around $100 bucks. It's not rocket science. Just get good measurements before you change them and you should be close enough to get you to the alignment shop. I changed all 4 tie rod ends, installed poly sway bar bushings and installed Bilstien HD all around. The car handles like a dream now. Remember. ... You get what you pay for......
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Originally Posted by Its_Go_Time
Another possibility is to replace them with spherical rod ends. The big advantage with this is that you can correct for bump steer. You would need to find a shop familiar with making these adjustments though, as its not that common a modification. If you go this route, also buy 'baloon seals' for the rod ends, or they will start making noise in no time flat. The rod ends shown are part of a 'bump steer kit' available from several forum vendors. The seals you will have to source seperately.


I have not been able to find these seals. Can you provide some sources? Thank you
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Originally Posted by jcalvin
So if I went with spherical tie rods and lowered my car an inch on stock bolts, how hard would it be to find someone who knew what they were doing to perform the alignment on the car?
I don't know. You need someone who knows how to measure bump steer, and adjust for it. An ordinary alignment shop probably won't know what you're talking about. Its straight forward, but time consuming...one of those jobs best done by yourself if you want it done right. If the car isnt lowered drastically(like yours), I wouldn't bother, but they can start to get twitchy over bumps when you go real low.

When I lowered my car on the factory spring with the bolts removed and just a .05" spacer, the oem tie rods produced over .2" toe change per side! When one of the tires went over a bump (or especially down into a pothole), it would steer into a different angle then the other, causing the car to dart. With the sphericals, the toe change is down to about .01"


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I have not been able to find these seals. Can you provide some sources? Thank you
Try here. These boots are great, and will work on sherical sway bar endlink set-ups as well.

http://www.sealsit.com/rodendboots.asp
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Thank you for getting back to me with the source. My heim joint are on there way in the mail and I want to order the boot before they come. Is it the 5/8" boots? Thank you
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