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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 07:06 PM
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looks like its about that time. looking for recommendations.

the car is street driven only, hasn't been on the track and likely won't be. just looking for a good pad for street use. low dusting would be really nice but I definitely one a good quality pad that won't make noise while braking. should I to go my favorite autoparts store and buy the best they carry or is there something better I should consider?

also one pad got down lower than I expected, the rotor's surface isn't perfectly smooth, its got some shallow ridges around it, should I consider rotor replacement a necessity as well?

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I use Raybestos Quiet Stops.
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 07:47 PM
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I just sent gene an e-mail asking about these:

AC Delco Performance Drilled/Slotted
19183532 – RF rotor
19183533 – LF rotor
19183534 – LR rotor
19183535 – RR rotor


||--Genuine GM C5 Ceramic Brake Pads--||
88909667 – Front ceramic pad kit
88909668 – Rear ceramic pad kit


are those the stock pads? not sure. I think the stock pads will be fine for me. as for the rotors I think I should just get them replaced also, the surface of that one is not smooth and it will just tear up new pads right? I know there are issues with cross drilled rotors but I don't track this car, its just driven on the street (daily driven actually) anyone forsee a problem with that combination for street use?
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I run Hawk HPS on all my cars( 96GST,03S2K,02Z06).

While you're at it,upgrade the rotors to slots and put on some SS lines.I run the TPS Motorsports slots & Goodridge SS lines.

The Whoa matches the Go!!

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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 09:22 PM
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I vote for HAWK HPS pads also. Less dust than ZO6 pads and more stopping power.
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 11:03 PM
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So the hawk pads are worth the premium over the GM ones? They're a good bit more expensive.

if they stop better, work silently, and dust less they might be worth it.
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 11:25 PM
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I'd go with the HPS pads-they're(quite) a few bucks more,but it's not an investment you're going to have to make again for a long time.
I just changed mine,they'd been on for 30k,and they look like they'd go another 30.
I actually bought my slotted rotors and new HPS's over a year ago,figuring I'd install everything when the pads wore out,but I got tired of waiting....
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 09:18 AM
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Take a look at the Carbotech Bobcat 1521 compound. Will not harm your wheels or your paint.

The Carbotech Bobcat 1521™ is our high performance street compound that is our most successful compound. The Bobcat compound is known for its awesome release and modulation, along with unmatched rotor friendliness. Like our AX™ & XP™ line of compounds, Bobcat 1521™ is a Ceramic based friction material offering minimal rotor damage and non corrosive dust. Bobcat 1521™ offers outstanding performance, even when cold, low dusting and low noise with an excellent initial bite. This compound’s virtually perfect linear torque production provides incredible braking force without ABS intervention. Bobcat 1521™ operating range starts out at ambient and goes up to 900°F. Bobcat 1521™ is suitable for ALL street cars, perfect for your tow vehicle, police cruiser, and has won multiple SCCA Solo 2 and Prosolo National Championships. The Bobcat 1521™ compound has been found to last two-three times longer than OE pads you can purchase at a dealership or national retailer. Bobcat 1521™ compound has also been found to extend the life of your rotors 2-3 times. That’s one of the beauties of Carbotech Ceramic brake compounds. Bobcat 1521™ is NOT recommended for any track use.

Front $144 Rear $124 Less 7% forum discount. Contact me at 216-780-8825 I will be happy to help you out.
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I have the Auto Zone ceramics on my Z. Works well for 1 or two panic stops but not much after that. For regular dd, they work great. Zero dusting and noise. Once I put on the d/s rotors, the dusting became more of an issue, but the rotors look too good to take off. I didn't see the value in the higher $$s for Hawkes/Carbotechs etc just for the street. Pads I use for the track are almost $500.

As for rotors, the d/s look much better but no good for hardcore racing etc. For a dd looking to save bucks, stocks are fine, even if you have to spend $5 to get one turned. If you decide on new rotors, I would go for the d/s. Seems like there was a vendor doing a gp on d/s for like $179. Can't remember if it included pads but probably not at that price.

Good luck with choice.
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Originally Posted by mcgilles
as for the rotors I think I should just get them replaced also, the surface of that one is not smooth and it will just tear up new pads right?
Unless you're getting some vibration through the rotors you don't need to replace them. The pads will bed into the rotor surface and will then wear normally.

Especially if you're worried about pad wear you DO NOT want D/S rotors. They may look cool, but they're not as good as the plain old rotors from a wear or braking standpoint.

HTH, and have a good one,
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Originally Posted by VetteDrmr
Unless you're getting some vibration through the rotors you don't need to replace them. The pads will bed into the rotor surface and will then wear normally.

Especially if you're worried about pad wear you DO NOT want D/S rotors. They may look cool, but they're not as good as the plain old rotors from a wear or braking standpoint.

HTH, and have a good one,
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The slotted rotors are better from a braking standpoint. Heat dissipation is pretty important, the slots do help vent the gases also.
Drilled is debatable but slotted will perform better.
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Originally Posted by VetteDrmr
Unless you're getting some vibration through the rotors you don't need to replace them. The pads will bed into the rotor surface and will then wear normally.

Especially if you're worried about pad wear you DO NOT want D/S rotors. They may look cool, but they're not as good as the plain old rotors from a wear or braking standpoint.

HTH, and have a good one,
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If this is true, then why does the C6 Z51 suspension package use drilled rotors? Not a challange, just curious.
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I'm running Hawk Performance Ceramics and love 'em.

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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 07:09 AM
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If you are just a everyday type driver, no track/racing, then you are over thinking it. You don't need any special name brand this or that type pad.

Just get a set of ceramic pads and install. I think mine came from advance or autozone. Would probable order from rockauto.com now as they are cheaper and also pick up some other small items to combine shipping.
Of course Advance auto has their coupons now so I got a set of wagner ceramic pads for my MiLs car and a set of wearever ceramics for my BiLs sts recently.
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If this is true, then why does the C6 Z51 suspension package use drilled rotors? Not a challange, just curious.
I will caveat my statements in that I'm speaking about normal, cast iron, rotors; I know very little about carbon/ceramic brake systems like those on the ZR1.

Essentially, the marketplace likes the looks of drilled/slotted rotors. Look at the pro racing series; you won't find drilled rotors of any kind. They do have slots that are boomerang-shaped, and frankly I don't really know their purpose. Race teams also replace those rotors after each event.

Modern race brake pads don't outgas much if any, and while the organic street pads may outgas some, they've got to be at the upper ends of their temperature range to do so (i.e. not usually found in street use). The good/bad part of slotted rotors (not drilled) is that they clean the surface of the brake pad. This is good from the standpoint that if the pad has been overheated and glazed the slots will clean that glaze off. This is bad from a street perspective from a pad wear and dusting POV.

Therefore my opinion that plain rotors are best for a street application, and absolutely from a track perspective. Track use will crack a plain rotor; a slotted rotor a bit faster, and a drilled rotor much faster. Street use drilled/slotted rotors will probably live just fine, but that doesn't make them better.

HTH, and have a good one,
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Originally Posted by GEMcLean
I'm running Hawk Performance Ceramics and love 'em.
I like the look of your rotors, are those the Delco's?
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I would be happy to help you out with the AC Delco ceramics or the Hawk HPS or Hawk Performance Ceramics. Feel free to give me a call!
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I would be happy to help you out with the AC Delco ceramics or the Hawk HPS or Hawk Performance Ceramics. Feel free to give me a call!
Got the shipping confirmation today. A pleasure as always!
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