C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Should stock C5 automatic fishtail when hitting second and third gears?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 08:10 PM
  #21  
mtdoragary's Avatar
mtdoragary
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 228
Likes: 1
From: eustis FL Saved and blessed; what else matter?
Default

Originally Posted by dmaleck
The casting # wont be on the white tag they will be stamped onto the head, usually on the corner closest to front of car on passenger side of head probably will be 241. I'm just wondering because IF someone were to do internal mods I would think they would atleast upgrade the heads to a 243 or better. I suppose not everyone will do this though.
I'll pop the covers tomorrow and check. I miss the double hump days!

Last edited by mtdoragary; Apr 3, 2011 at 08:14 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 08:14 PM
  #22  
mtdoragary's Avatar
mtdoragary
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 228
Likes: 1
From: eustis FL Saved and blessed; what else matter?
Default

Originally Posted by 00Corvette
Okay, if you say so. I doubt 3.15 gears allow tire spin from 2nd to 3rd...at WOT you'd be around what 80-85 mph?? I'm a 2.73 car with mods in sig..COW tune..still won't even bark second but for maybe a millisecond. Bald tires or not.

The op is saying this isn't even a "chirp" that the car is actually spinning..I'd like to see a stock C5 spin going into 3rd on dry pavement. not calling BS just saying I'd like to see it on a STOCK car.

Car is modified and/or tuned.

Does your car lope at all? Any possibility of a high stall converter??

It shouldn't be spinning too severely with the traction control on either just so you're aware. Should spin for a brief second then cut power back to gain traction.
No high stall, no lope. VERY hard shifts! It fishtails momentarily and then cuts power. Power comes back on full almost immediately.
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 08:38 PM
  #23  
madmatt9471's Avatar
madmatt9471
Team Owner
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 21,473
Likes: 356
From: Palmdale, Ca----- 2009 Cyber Gray 4LT A6 F55 452 RWHP 422 RWTQ- RIP 1998 C5 734 RWHP & 585 RWTQ-----
Default

Originally Posted by mtdoragary
The shifts are seriously firm and hard. The fishtailing comes with traction control ON I don't want to burn up the tires by spinning one wheel! It's got the G90 and G92 codes. It has Corsa exhaust and a carbon fiber over-the-radiator duct and dual K&N cones in front. That's all I can find. Can't get in touch with previous owners. The 3.15 gears likely explains why I get only 30-21 mpg.
Okay cool! You do have the 3.15's and it really sounds like you tranny has been rebuilt and has a shift kit in it for sure

When I had mine rebuilt, tought it shifted great before, but when it got the shift kit too a huge difference

More than likely it has at least a tune either handheld, mail order or street tune with the tranny having a "Shift Kit" - thus getting the hard quixk and firm shifts

You sound set on the tranny I wish I could look at your PCM tune and look over the tranny tables to see where they are at!

Thanks,Matt
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 09:02 PM
  #24  
C5XTASY's Avatar
C5XTASY
Safety Car
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 4,949
Likes: 10
From: Monticello MN
Default

Originally Posted by 00Corvette
Okay, if you say so. I doubt 3.15 gears allow tire spin from 2nd to 3rd...at WOT you'd be around what 80-85 mph?? I'm a 2.73 car with mods in sig..COW tune..still won't even bark second but for maybe a millisecond. Bald tires or not.

The op is saying this isn't even a "chirp" that the car is actually spinning..I'd like to see a stock C5 spin going into 3rd on dry pavement. not calling BS just saying I'd like to see it on a STOCK car.

Car is modified and/or tuned.

Does your car lope at all? Any possibility of a high stall converter??

It shouldn't be spinning too severely with the traction control on either just so you're aware. Should spin for a brief second then cut power back to gain traction.

....absolutely.
Ed
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 09:45 PM
  #25  
mtdoragary's Avatar
mtdoragary
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 228
Likes: 1
From: eustis FL Saved and blessed; what else matter?
Default

Originally Posted by madmatt9471
Okay cool! You do have the 3.15's and it really sounds like you tranny has been rebuilt and has a shift kit in it for sure

When I had mine rebuilt, tought it shifted great before, but when it got the shift kit too a huge difference

More than likely it has at least a tune either handheld, mail order or street tune with the tranny having a "Shift Kit" - thus getting the hard quixk and firm shifts

You sound set on the tranny I wish I could look at your PCM tune and look over the tranny tables to see where they are at!

Thanks,Matt
Too bad I can't use my VAG-COM on the Vette... I'm happy with it, but curious as to what all was done to it before I bought it....

Last edited by mtdoragary; Apr 3, 2011 at 09:56 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 10:01 PM
  #26  
madmatt9471's Avatar
madmatt9471
Team Owner
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 21,473
Likes: 356
From: Palmdale, Ca----- 2009 Cyber Gray 4LT A6 F55 452 RWHP 422 RWTQ- RIP 1998 C5 734 RWHP & 585 RWTQ-----
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 00Corvette
Okay, if you say so. I doubt 3.15 gears allow tire spin from 2nd to 3rd...at WOT you'd be around what 80-85 mph?? I'm a 2.73 car with mods in sig..COW tune..still won't even bark second but for maybe a millisecond. Bald tires or not.

The op is saying this isn't even a "chirp" that the car is actually spinning..I'd like to see a stock C5 spin going into 3rd on dry pavement. not calling BS just saying I'd like to see it on a STOCK car.

Car is modified and/or tuned.

Does your car lope at all? Any possibility of a high stall converter??

It shouldn't be spinning too severely with the traction control on either just so you're aware. Should spin for a brief second then cut power back to gain traction.

Originally Posted by C5XTASY
....absolutely.
Ed
I don't know what you guys are talking about but mine does it all the time when it hits 3rd gear!

And mine is an A4 too!

Thanks,Matt
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2011 | 12:34 AM
  #27  
mcm95403's Avatar
mcm95403
Le Mans Master
Supporting Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,882
Likes: 234
From: Bangkok, Thailand
Default

"I just replaced my BFG Traction T/A's with Hankook Ventus V12's. With the BFG's it would slide all over the place through 1st, 2nd and into 3rd. With the Hankook's there is slight sideways action in 1st, and a slight wiggle going into 2nd, but that's it. Mine is a stock 99 except for the mods listed in my sig. Mine is a 6-speed, so I have the 3.42 gears.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2011 | 10:08 AM
  #28  
Z06X's Avatar
Z06X
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,167
Likes: 2
From: Pittsburgh Pa
Default

Put it on a dyno....see what it puts down....the end.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 4, 2011 | 10:36 AM
  #29  
C5XTASY's Avatar
C5XTASY
Safety Car
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 4,949
Likes: 10
From: Monticello MN
Default

Originally Posted by madmatt9471
Quote:
Originally Posted by 00Corvette
Okay, if you say so. I doubt 3.15 gears allow tire spin from 2nd to 3rd...at WOT you'd be around what 80-85 mph?? I'm a 2.73 car with mods in sig..COW tune..still won't even bark second but for maybe a millisecond. Bald tires or not.

The op is saying this isn't even a "chirp" that the car is actually spinning..I'd like to see a stock C5 spin going into 3rd on dry pavement. not calling BS just saying I'd like to see it on a STOCK car.

Car is modified and/or tuned.

Does your car lope at all? Any possibility of a high stall converter??

It shouldn't be spinning too severely with the traction control on either just so you're aware. Should spin for a brief second then cut power back to gain traction.



I don't know what you guys are talking about but mine does it all the time when it hits 3rd gear!

And mine is an A4 too!

Thanks,Matt

Matt,
The only thing stock in your engine and drive train is the radiator cap!
Ed

Last edited by C5XTASY; Apr 4, 2011 at 11:16 AM.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2011 | 01:17 PM
  #30  
Paul 75 L82's Avatar
Paul 75 L82
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 5,245
Likes: 25
From: Blue Ridge Georgia
Default

You don't even have to remove the fuel rails covers to see the casting number on the head. Pass side lower front corner has a little flat spot and on that spot will be 3 numbers, I'm betting it will say 243.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2011 | 01:21 PM
  #31  
Paul 75 L82's Avatar
Paul 75 L82
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 5,245
Likes: 25
From: Blue Ridge Georgia
Default

Look at the lower front corner, see the 243?

Reply
Old Apr 6, 2011 | 03:38 PM
  #32  
Mr.Gearhead's Avatar
Mr.Gearhead
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 892
Likes: 0
From: GA
Default

I was beginning to think it was just me...

A few months ago I bought a 2000 Convertible , Auto, 3.15 rear, under 20Kmiles. The only aftermarket item is a Corsa Pace Car cat back. Everything else is stock... right down to original brake pad and rotors.
Tires are less than year old EMT... about 400miles on them so far. My dad was previous owner so I know the entire history...

My car also gets out of line when it hits second... the rear kicks hard to the right... enough to give me that thought... "is this friggin thing coming around on me??" I expect it now but the first few rides where very unexpected. It is almost like it "hops" sideways.

I have a 1970 Convertible as well... I am very familiar with grabbing second gear and even third... but that is 4spd Muncie... When I grab second I can feel the tires breaking loose and gliding... but the C5 is more harsh...

I just turned 40 last month... maybe I am just getting old?
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2011 | 04:58 PM
  #33  
mtdoragary's Avatar
mtdoragary
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 228
Likes: 1
From: eustis FL Saved and blessed; what else matter?
Default

Old??? I turn 70 next January! It's good to hear from someone else who actually has real 60's and 70's muscle car experience. It appears that many of the young computer drivers on this site drove nothing but front wheel drive rice burners before getting a Vette. I guess they NEED a computerized nanny to straighten the Vette out when it gets a bit sideways! And what's all this nonsense about "drifting" being something new? I've been throwing the tail out powering through turns for more than fifty years, just like most people who drove rear-wheel-drive beaters on dirt roads while growing up in the old south!
l
Originally Posted by Mr.Gearhead
I was beginning to think it was just me...

A few months ago I bought a 2000 Convertible , Auto, 3.15 rear, under 20Kmiles. The only aftermarket item is a Corsa Pace Car cat back. Everything else is stock... right down to original brake pad and rotors.
Tires are less than year old EMT... about 400miles on them so far. My dad was previous owner so I know the entire history...

My car also gets out of line when it hits second... the rear kicks hard to the right... enough to give me that thought... "is this friggin thing coming around on me??" I expect it now but the first few rides where very unexpected. It is almost like it "hops" sideways.

I have a 1970 Convertible as well... I am very familiar with grabbing second gear and even third... but that is 4spd Muncie... When I grab second I can feel the tires breaking loose and gliding... but the C5 is more harsh...

I just turned 40 last month... maybe I am just getting old?
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2011 | 05:00 PM
  #34  
mtdoragary's Avatar
mtdoragary
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 228
Likes: 1
From: eustis FL Saved and blessed; what else matter?
Default

For a minute there, I thought my old eyes had given up on me, but then I saw it! Thanks!
Originally Posted by Paul 75 L82
Look at the lower front corner, see the 243?

Reply
Old Apr 6, 2011 | 05:05 PM
  #35  
mtdoragary's Avatar
mtdoragary
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 228
Likes: 1
From: eustis FL Saved and blessed; what else matter?
Default

Nope; it doesn't have 243!
Originally Posted by Paul 75 L82
Look at the lower front corner, see the 243?

Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:25 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE