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Old Apr 27, 2011 | 04:29 PM
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So I recently picked up a c5 and im absolutely new to that era vette and ls1 motor. So i was wondering, would a new air intake, cam, and exhaust be a good combo for some cheap horsepower?
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Long tube headers and cai is the best to start with.
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Thats a great place to start, but I wouldnt call it cheap.
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thanks for the info, Is there a good cam available for the ls1 motor that runs good for a mostly stock vette.
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cheap and horsepower are two words that really do not go together.

start with long tube headers.

most bang for the buck.
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Originally Posted by C4 Monster
So I recently picked up a c5 and im absolutely new to that era vette and ls1 motor. So i was wondering, would a new air intake, cam, and exhaust be a good combo for some cheap horsepower?
Pick up a service manual, shop around and perform the work yourself. That will save you and enormous amount of money.
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Old Apr 27, 2011 | 10:29 PM
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thanks for the info, Is there a good cam available for the ls1 motor that runs good for a mostly stock vette.
There is a couple of good options but headers are a must with any cam to get the best results.

Are you planing on doing the work yourself? Or looking for some shops in the Houston area?

What is your idea of cheap?
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Absolutely seat of the pants power......Gears.. True horsepower? Lots of money
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Gears (not cheap) or a Vararam for power that you really feel and is relatively cheap.
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Originally Posted by just inc
Long tube headers and cai is the best to start with.
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Originally Posted by C4 Monster
thanks for the info, Is there a good cam available for the ls1 motor that runs good for a mostly stock vette.
For those suggesting a long tube header for "most bang for the buck" you may want to consider a cam swap instead.
Headers are great to improve upon the flow capabilities of the engine, but if you don't first change what controls how much airflow can occur you don't really need the headers.
Cam is worth power throughout the ENTIRE rpm range in a noticeable fashion, unlike headers or CIA.
Here's a link to a cam swap article.
http://www.superchevy.com/technical/...en3/index.html

You may want to really ask yourself what it is that you are looking to achieve though. Is it really power that you want, or just the perception of power. A good exhaust sound, CIA, and tune would be the best for the latter.
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Originally Posted by imavettegirl
cheap and horsepower are two words that really do not go together.

start with long tube headers.

most bang for the buck.
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by manley845
For those suggesting a long tube header for "most bang for the buck" you may want to consider a cam swap instead.
Headers are great to improve upon the flow capabilities of the engine, but if you don't first change what controls how much airflow can occur you don't really need the headers.
Cam is worth power throughout the ENTIRE rpm range in a noticeable fashion, unlike headers or CIA.
Here's a link to a cam swap article.
http://www.superchevy.com/technical/...en3/index.html

You may want to really ask yourself what it is that you are looking to achieve though. Is it really power that you want, or just the perception of power. A good exhaust sound, CIA, and tune would be the best for the latter.
most cams that are worth the effort & cost to install would need headers to realize their full potential
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Originally Posted by zebra86
most cams that are worth the effort & cost to install would need headers to realize their full potential
I agree that if you are planning alot of mods long term, you need to start with the headers and build up.... But.. If you're planning on just one cheap mod and nothing more then think of it like this..

Headers - 20-30hp gain

Cam without full potential due to no headers - 40hp ish ( more than that and itll get more expensive cause youll need better springs, pushrods, etc.. should get em anyway though for safety)

From my experience everything I do to my c5 costs about double what I paid to do on my c4, usually more..
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Originally Posted by zebra86
most cams that are worth the effort & cost to install would need headers to realize their full potential
I would go so far as to say that most cams that are worth the effort and cost to install would need CAI, HEADS & HEADERS to realize their full potential....now you're getting close to the cost of a supercharger.

Of course, then you'll get passed by a new ZR1 and you'll want to add heads, cam, and headers to the supercharger so that you can give them a bit of a surprise....and so goes the endless spiral of modding. IMO, there's no "cheap" power because it's like a gateway drug, it just makes you want MORE!
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[QUOTE=imavettegirl;1577461937]cheap and horsepower are two words that really [B]do not go together[/

VERY TRUE
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by just inc
There is a couple of good options but headers are a must with any cam to get the best results.

Are you planing on doing the work yourself? Or looking for some shops in the Houston area?

What is your idea of cheap?
I can do all the work myself, but iv only got a couple k to play with at the moment, so im looking for the biggest bang for the buck
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 04:53 PM
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[QUOTE=STLSPARKY;1577469328]
Originally Posted by imavettegirl
cheap and horsepower are two words that really [B]do not go together[/

VERY TRUE
your right , better say cheapest horsepower (not cheap, but cheapest of the options)
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 04:57 PM
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Also, lets say I go with a Vararam, Cam, and borla straight pipes (exhaust of my choice) what cam would I see most hp gains with just the Vararam and Straight pipes (dont think that the straight pipes will matter much).
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Originally Posted by Rob04C5LM
I would go so far as to say that most cams that are worth the effort and cost to install would need CAI, HEADS & HEADERS to realize their full potential....now you're getting close to the cost of a supercharger.

Of course, then you'll get passed by a new ZR1 and you'll want to add heads, cam, and headers to the supercharger so that you can give them a bit of a surprise....and so goes the endless spiral of modding. IMO, there's no "cheap" power because it's like a gateway drug, it just makes you want MORE!
yeah... i remember the days when i was scared i might break something if i played around under a hood
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