"Uh oh" Harmonic Balancer
Racer
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 309
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From: Mendota IL
Sorry, JMHO. Now that's taken care of, why do you post info that's JYHO, and make it sound very authoritative? I don't want to sound like I'm attacking, but read your own posts; they're near to nonsense and pure speculation. You can parrot Jpig, the shouter, but there's no data, or real world proof of anything you've said. OTOH, there's hundreds of people posting real experience with UD pulleys that have no negative issues. Just because it sounds all scientificish (AFAIK, not a real word) proves nothing. At the end of your pontific sentence, I highlighted the only thing that's relevant, and ask you; how can this be assumed?
Race Director
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,060
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From: Pasco WA
Well, do you have any? What are the chances that the intrepid engineers at GM just used parts off the shelf when they could, and had parts made only when there were none available? That these same engineers, who had to answer to the bean counters in the front office, who kept yapping at them to bring in this "design" under budget, or else! They did it the cheapest way possible; that's how corporations work. If you believe they burnt the midnight oil with the mainframes a'blazin' to get the perfect combination of components, then yes, you are naive.
Racer
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 309
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From: Mendota IL
Well, do you have any? What are the chances that the intrepid engineers at GM just used parts off the shelf when they could, and had parts made only when there were none available? That these same engineers, who had to answer to the bean counters in the front office, who kept yapping at them to bring in this "design" under budget, or else! They did it the cheapest way possible; that's how corporations work. If you believe they burnt the midnight oil with the mainframes a'blazin' to get the perfect combination of components, then yes, you are naive.
And btw, do you have the slightest bit of proof of anything you've just said? Or is it all just an assumption? Just how I assume GM has reasoning behind what parts go into a vehicle. Does that really sound stupid/naive?
Holy crap, this got way off track. Starting to sound like a f'n talk show... lol.
Last edited by R6cowboy; May 18, 2011 at 01:27 PM.
Safety Car
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 4,983
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From: Stoney Creek Ontario
GM engineers spend amazing amounts of time and energy to develope the perfect part for every aspect of the cars they build and design.... that's why so many C5 harmonic balancers are going south! 
Drifting
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,722
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From: Florida
St. Jude Donor '09
I find it amusing how you always resort to personal insults in an attempt to make your non-sensical points. You behave like an abberant pre pubescent child; you have my permission to pretend that you are a big boy and behave like one.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,452
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From: SC
Well, I guess they don't always get it right, Huh?
And just a thought on the wobble issue. If two pieces of steel are held together by a piece of rubber, wouldn't one expect there to be some slight wobble? As long as the rubber is not delaminating, this would not seem to be a problem. Just my 2 cents.
But that is for another argument.......
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Race Director
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,060
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From: Pasco WA
I'd have to agree with this part of your post, because unless you're an owner, you don't have a leg to stand on. And if you don't turn your own wrenches, you rob yourself of seeing for yourself all the half-*** compromises the original designers made, and yet, they built this superior car, at this price point. Some things are genius, but when the manufacturer continues to sell a car with well known defects, some of which can be fatal to the owner. IMO, there's no excuse for letting some portions of the original design, to remain unchanged, just to save a nickel. This is why I doubt their data, wherever it abides, and those who blindly continue to sing their praises. Once again, you're right, we're completely off the track, so I'll have to agree to disagree. Peace out.
