Catless and smell
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jun 2008
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From: Rockledge FL
I would have liked to have gotten a set of pipes that had cats but when I am ready to buy something I want them in stock right now. LGs streets were not in stock anywhere, XS power was still on backorder and I am not paying more than 10% of the value of the car for anything else so I went with the texas speed. That is why I am glad I live in FL. no emissions, no testing, not even an annual inspection. We used to have emissions testing but then they determined that air quality after 10 years of testing was the same as prior so they stopped.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Jan 2009
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From: The Woodlands Texas
You've got to be kidding. Illegal, immoral and stupid. First, headers without CARB certification are illegal. Doesn't matter if they have cats or not. Immoral? You should not have headers or mods and drive something with a lot more fuel mileage efficiency before casting that stone. Stupid? I don't think so. To each his own but just because you wouldn't does not constitute being stupid.
Sorry, I off my soap box but this prompted me when all was asked by the OP was would it smell to which I can answer. I put FLP's with removeable cats on my WS6. There was no difference in smell between having them in or out. However, the sound was very different because I have the GMMG chambered exhaust. It sounded horrible with them out kinda of like a tractor. Don't know how it would sound on the vette with stock exhaust or aftermarket but you should check that too. I have ARH with cats on the Z06 and it sounds great with no smell either.
Sorry, I off my soap box but this prompted me when all was asked by the OP was would it smell to which I can answer. I put FLP's with removeable cats on my WS6. There was no difference in smell between having them in or out. However, the sound was very different because I have the GMMG chambered exhaust. It sounded horrible with them out kinda of like a tractor. Don't know how it would sound on the vette with stock exhaust or aftermarket but you should check that too. I have ARH with cats on the Z06 and it sounds great with no smell either.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,284
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From: Rockledge FL
You've got to be kidding. Illegal, immoral and stupid. First, headers without CARB certification are illegal. Doesn't matter if they have cats or not. Immoral? You should not have headers or mods and drive something with a lot more fuel mileage efficiency before casting that stone. Stupid? I don't think so. To each his own but just because you wouldn't does not constitute being stupid.
Sorry, I off my soap box but this prompted me when all was asked by the OP was would it smell to which I can answer. I put FLP's with removeable cats on my WS6. There was no difference in smell between having them in or out. However, the sound was very different because I have the GMMG chambered exhaust. It sounded horrible with them out kinda of like a tractor. Don't know how it would sound on the vette with stock exhaust or aftermarket but you should check that too. I have ARH with cats on the Z06 and it sounds great with no smell either.
Sorry, I off my soap box but this prompted me when all was asked by the OP was would it smell to which I can answer. I put FLP's with removeable cats on my WS6. There was no difference in smell between having them in or out. However, the sound was very different because I have the GMMG chambered exhaust. It sounded horrible with them out kinda of like a tractor. Don't know how it would sound on the vette with stock exhaust or aftermarket but you should check that too. I have ARH with cats on the Z06 and it sounds great with no smell either.
I am glad that someone said something. I was thinking about it but didnt want to get myself in trouble.
Stinky-we proved that can be fixed with a tune
illegal-ok yeah but so is the simple act of putting on any long tube
immoral-based on what?
stupid-i guess that one is tied to the above.
To be fair though, I am a very immoral person. I hate kids, atheist, and watch way too much **** so my viewpoint may be skewed.
Race Director
Joined: Sep 2005
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From: Pasco WA
I am glad that someone said something. I was thinking about it but didnt want to get myself in trouble.
Stinky-we proved that can be fixed with a tune
illegal-ok yeah but so is the simple act of putting on any long tube
immoral-based on what?
stupid-i guess that one is tied to the above.
To be fair though, I am a very immoral person. I hate kids, atheist, and watch way too much **** so my viewpoint may be skewed.
Stinky-we proved that can be fixed with a tune
illegal-ok yeah but so is the simple act of putting on any long tube
immoral-based on what?
stupid-i guess that one is tied to the above.
To be fair though, I am a very immoral person. I hate kids, atheist, and watch way too much **** so my viewpoint may be skewed.
There's such a thing as "too much ****"?
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Drifting
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,898
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From: Morrisville PA
Contact SUPERMAN 09 and talk to him about XS Power headers. They work excellent and have an excellent ball and socket fit:
I had them on my 06 and installed them on a friends 04 Vert.
The ball and socket collector fit works fantastic!
Why do you want to go catless????
You only gain 4-5 Hp and the smell will be more than you want to deal with. trust me.!
BC
I had them on my 06 and installed them on a friends 04 Vert.
The ball and socket collector fit works fantastic!Why do you want to go catless????
You only gain 4-5 Hp and the smell will be more than you want to deal with. trust me.!BC
I really want these headers, but they are out of stock. They say mid june, but who really knows? I am pulling my heads in a week or two and it would be very convenient if I could get a set of headers by then...they will be very easy to install with the heads off.
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Drifting
Joined: Apr 2009
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From: Morrisville PA
You've got to be kidding. Illegal, immoral and stupid. First, headers without CARB certification are illegal. Doesn't matter if they have cats or not. Immoral? You should not have headers or mods and drive something with a lot more fuel mileage efficiency before casting that stone. Stupid? I don't think so. To each his own but just because you wouldn't does not constitute being stupid.
Sorry, I off my soap box but this prompted me when all was asked by the OP was would it smell to which I can answer. I put FLP's with removeable cats on my WS6. There was no difference in smell between having them in or out. However, the sound was very different because I have the GMMG chambered exhaust. It sounded horrible with them out kinda of like a tractor. Don't know how it would sound on the vette with stock exhaust or aftermarket but you should check that too. I have ARH with cats on the Z06 and it sounds great with no smell either.
Sorry, I off my soap box but this prompted me when all was asked by the OP was would it smell to which I can answer. I put FLP's with removeable cats on my WS6. There was no difference in smell between having them in or out. However, the sound was very different because I have the GMMG chambered exhaust. It sounded horrible with them out kinda of like a tractor. Don't know how it would sound on the vette with stock exhaust or aftermarket but you should check that too. I have ARH with cats on the Z06 and it sounds great with no smell either.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 780
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From: Aquadale Speed Shop NC
Ditch the cats and let the tree huggers whine, if you have a good tuner you'll never smell it, most don't take the time to tweak the injector timing to help with it. Factory tunes kind of pour gas on converters to help with over heating as stupid as that may sound to help meet the warranty they have to meet.
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Drifting
Joined: Apr 2009
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From: Morrisville PA
Ditch the cats and let the tree huggers whine, if you have a good tuner you'll never smell it, most don't take the time to tweak the injector timing to help with it. Factory tunes kind of pour gas on converters to help with over heating as stupid as that may sound to help meet the warranty they have to meet.
Tech Contributor
Joined: Sep 2005
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From: New Market AL
But also like zeevette mentioned - don't get crazy with huge cams and large overlap. They might sound cool at idle, but it gets more and more difficult to clean up the tune with all that overlap.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Jan 2009
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From: The Woodlands Texas
Wow, I fully expected someone to jump all over me for that. I appreciate the support! I could not stay quiet on that one.
As for the XS headers, they look really impressive. Very similar to the ARH design which provides a great power boost especially torque.
As for the XS headers, they look really impressive. Very similar to the ARH design which provides a great power boost especially torque.
Drifting
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From: Colorado
Racer
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From: Suffolk Virginia
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From: Pasco WA
Last edited by zeevette; Jun 1, 2011 at 03:03 PM.
