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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 07:31 PM
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I've got my transmission and torque tube out of my car to replace the TT couplers and I'm almost ready to put it all back together.

I know the regular procedure is to install the TT onto the transmission, and then to reinstall the assembly back into the car.

I was wondering if anyone ever installs the TT first, and then bolts the transmission on to it? Is it even possible to do it this way?

I was thinking it might be easier to stab the TT into the clutch/pilot bearing without having to wrestle with the transmission.

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Old Aug 9, 2011 | 03:56 AM
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That is the way I would reinstall the units, if/when I would be doing the job by myself.

Before pulling out the drive train, It's best to take notes of the height/angle at different marked locations of the t/t & drivetrain to maintain the same measurements/angle when doing the reinstall.

My opinion is that you would have less chance of messing up the pilot
bushing/bearing, & things should "come together" much easier when using this method of reinstall. (Especially when working by yourself.)

Good luck.
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Old Aug 9, 2011 | 07:14 AM
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Interesting question, would like to hear too if thats possible. I am planning to do the same job this fall/winter. Only thing what could be a problem is that you will not have access to the upper bolts at the tranny/TT.

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Old Aug 9, 2011 | 08:36 AM
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Interesting question, would like to here too if thats possible. I am planning to do the same job this fall/winter. Only thing what could be a problem is that you will not have access to the upper bolts at the tranny/TT.
I was concerned about the upper tranny bolts as well, but the entire assembly does hang quite low when it is dropped, so it might be possible.

Has anyone actually accomplished this?
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bunch of long extensions you can reach those bolts
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Sounds great. That would make it much easier to get the drive shaft into the pilot bearing. Once thats in and alligned you just need to lift up the tranny with a tranny jack into possition and bolt it to the TT...

Going to try it that way!
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Originally Posted by Jochen
Interesting question, would like to hear too if thats possible. I am planning to do the same job this fall/winter. Only thing what could be a problem is that you will not have access to the upper bolts at the tranny/TT.

?? "Only thing what could be a problem is that you will not have access to the upper bolts at the tranny/tt" ??

Please explain. I'm trying to learn things here.
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I guess it might be easier to unbolt the TT from the tranny when the hole assembly is off the car. As long as it is in the car, there might be not enough room/access to get to the upper bolts. Just an idea, have to crawl under the car and have a look...
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Originally Posted by Jochen
I guess it might be easier to unbolt the TT from the tranny when the hole assembly is off the car. As long as it is in the car, there might be not enough room/access to get to the upper bolts. Just an idea, have to crawl under the car and have a look...
I'm thinking when removing.... to take the T/T, trans/diff out all as one.
When reinstalling, the T/T first, then the (trany/diff, bolted together) as one piece.

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I'm thinking when removing.... to take the T/T, trans/diff out all as one.
When reinstalling, the T/T first, then the (trany?diff, bolted together) as one piece.
I don't see any advantage...unless.....you have a lift. Much easier installing the assembly on jackstands.......IMO.
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Yeah, i do have a lift. BUT its one of those that just lifts the car up three feet, so i have to work on it like having the car on some large jackstands.
Have a look: http://www.corvettec5.de/Thumbs/Garage/Garage1.html
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Lucky, I basically was talking about working off of jack stands too,
except off of removable sectioned ramp.

Of course the car would be higher by using blocking at the puck locations & down to the top surface of the ramp.

Also, to remove the cradle, the rear section where the tire sets on back to the end of the run-on/off section would be removed.
Just thinking.
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Originally Posted by bumble-z
Lucky, I basically was talking about working off of jack stands too,
except off of removable sectioned ramp.

Of course the car would be higher by using blocking at the puck locations & down to the top surface of the ramp.

Also, to remove the cradle, the rear section where the tire sets on back to the end of the run-on/off section would be removed.
Just thinking.
Based on that pic, installing as an assembly should be a piece of cake. Much better than what I had.
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
Based on that pic, installing as an assembly should be a piece of cake. Much better than what I had.
I kinda thought that too.

As you, I presume, I work by myself.
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So what I guess I'm hearing is that stabbing the whole assembly into the clutch/pilot bearing isn't that much of a hassle?

I'm working off of jackstands, and I had to work the whole thing quite a bit to get it out of the car, so I was assuming it was only going to be worse putting it back together.

It seems to me that stabbing the clutch is more difficult than connecting the tranny to the back of the TT after it is in the car, assuming there's enough clearance to get to the top bolts.

Was hoping to hear from someone who tried doing it this way and if they were successful or not.
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So what I guess I'm hearing is that stabbing the whole assembly into the clutch/pilot bearing isn't that much of a hassle?
Not if you have the service manual, proper tools, jacks, supports, take measurements.......and most important...know what you are doing.
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Old Aug 9, 2011 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
Not if you have the service manual, proper tools, jacks, supports, take measurements.......and most important...know what you are doing.
You had me up to that last part.
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Originally Posted by AlanC
So what I guess I'm hearing is that stabbing the whole assembly into the clutch/pilot bearing isn't that much of a hassle?

I'm working off of jackstands, and I had to work the whole thing quite a bit to get it out of the car, so I was assuming it was only going to be worse putting it back together.

It seems to me that stabbing the clutch is more difficult than connecting the tranny to the back of the TT after it is in the car, assuming there's enough clearance to get to the top bolts.

Was hoping to hear from someone who tried doing it this way and if they were successful or not.
I did it on jackstands with the whole assembly together before it went back in and it wasn't too bad... It REALLY helps to have another jack up front on the torque tube to get it to exactly the right height and keep it there before you start trying to shove it back in. The assembly is HEAVY and it would be ideal if you could find another pair of hands for this part...

I don't know if it's possible to put the torque tube in first then bolt the transmission up but I don't see why it wouldn't be; not sure it's worth the trouble though...
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You had me up to that last part.
If you have a service manual, you are already armed with more information, than 90% of the guys on this forum. Use the force Luke......
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Old Aug 9, 2011 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
If you have a service manual, you are already armed with more information, than 90% of the guys on this forum. Use the force Luke......
Yeah, I have the service manual and an impressive selection of expensive one-time use Kent-Moore tools. Wish I had a lift, but jack stands will have to do.

Guess I was just looking for a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist.
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