POWERLOADER REGRETS
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From: Lowell MA
Re: POWERLOADER REGRETS (gnosys)
Apparently I am the exception here, but I received my PLII about two weeks ago....The turnaround time was 12 days. Nope, that's not a misprint...12 days. I ordered it through Matt Graham at Exit 28 Motorsports. Either Mr. Cole is getting back on track or I'm just darn lucky. Haven't installed it yet, so I can't comment on it's performance. Can't wait though!
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From: Murphy TX
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Re: POWERLOADER REGRETS (REDLYNER)
I read that there was a difference in performance between the two, LS1 Edit and PLII. Does one tune the car better than the other? I am also looking to buy, I have a '99 A4 with no mods.
Drifting
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From: Appalachian Mtns
Re: POWERLOADER REGRETS (ToplessTexan)
I read that there was a difference in performance between the two, LS1 Edit and PLII. Does one tune the car better than the other? I am also looking to buy, I have a '99 A4 with no mods.
One is a tool (LS1-Edit) the other is tuning (PLII.) LS1-Edit is limited by a) the user's knowledge and/or willingness to learn and b) the tables/parameters currently supported.
One is a tool (LS1-Edit) the other is tuning (PLII.) LS1-Edit is limited by a) the user's knowledge and/or willingness to learn and b) the tables/parameters currently supported.
:yesnod: :D :yesnod:
:cheers:
Here's another analogy: it's like having a game cartridge which plugs into your Nintendo, vs. having a computer with a big hard drive, and the access to about a hundred games, all with different parameters, which you can tailor to your wishes.
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Drifting
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From: NE PA
Re: POWERLOADER REGRETS (silversport)
silversport: This is a moot question. Even if you decide to get a Powerloader like I did before Christmas of last year, you'll wait months and months before you'll see it if ever. Ordering mine last December I thought I'd have plenty of time to get it before the weather turned nice, but as the months rolled by I didn't get it and inquiries gave me no hope of ever seeing it. I finally gave up and cancelled my order.
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From: Scottsdale AZ
Re: POWERLOADER REGRETS (silversport)
Silversport,
None!
Product does what it is supposed to do. If you have any issues the dealer can reflash to stock in about 10 minutes at most and then reload PL-II if desired. We have done this several times already.
No issues with dealer and PL-II being in PCM.
The wait is worth it!
None!
Product does what it is supposed to do. If you have any issues the dealer can reflash to stock in about 10 minutes at most and then reload PL-II if desired. We have done this several times already.
No issues with dealer and PL-II being in PCM.
The wait is worth it!
Burning Brakes
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From: Denver CO
Re: POWERLOADER REGRETS (silversport)
Steve is a major pain in the behind. I went with his programming so that I could make future mods for $75. Now that I am swapping gears I sent me PL back 6 weeks ago and guess what: yeah, right - no PL, no Steve. I have to eat another $500 to have Ed Wright hook me up. To hell with Steve. :mad
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From: Haverhill MA
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Re: POWERLOADER REGRETS (Buckmaster)
You want EXCELLENT SERVICE? Get this!!!!!!! I faxed Ed Wright my info at about 9AM this morning. I got a call about 1:30PM from his Assistant that she was shipping my "Custom Program" (see sig, no small program) today! That's 4 1/2 hours :eek: :cheers:
Steve Cole is a joke! Going on 5 months for my re-program :mad And I am still trying to get the things fixed from his 1st program AND my mod additions! Empty Promises is definitely the words for Cole! 3 months ago he stated he was working on it and NOTHING. 3 weeks ago I was told he was doing it over the weekend and NOTHING! I will never use Cole again and I caution anyone who does! Am I pissed off? God damn right I am :mad and that is putting it mildly. My true words would get me kicked off the Forum! :mad
Ed Wright is the way to go. Now, that's service! :D
Steve Cole is a joke! Going on 5 months for my re-program :mad And I am still trying to get the things fixed from his 1st program AND my mod additions! Empty Promises is definitely the words for Cole! 3 months ago he stated he was working on it and NOTHING. 3 weeks ago I was told he was doing it over the weekend and NOTHING! I will never use Cole again and I caution anyone who does! Am I pissed off? God damn right I am :mad and that is putting it mildly. My true words would get me kicked off the Forum! :mad
Ed Wright is the way to go. Now, that's service! :D
Thanks
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From: Murphy TX
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Re: POWERLOADER REGRETS (vette9898)
http://www.fastchip.com
It's less convenient than the handhelds in that you have to ship your PCM to them. You can probably do an advance exchange to minimize downtime though. No ability to revert to previous programming short of reflashing the PCM.
It's less convenient than the handhelds in that you have to ship your PCM to them. You can probably do an advance exchange to minimize downtime though. No ability to revert to previous programming short of reflashing the PCM.
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From: Lumberton TX
Re: POWERLOADER REGRETS (ToplessTexan)
Hay, Mean In Green, The PLll that are new issue seem to come out quick. Thats because 'ol Steve gets more $$$ up front. The RELOADS almost never come any where near soon! Actually Soon is not in the picture. I've been waiting for over 7(SEVEN) months now for a reload and waited over 6 mo the first time around so I had the unit for a couple mo total and chevy killed my fiest PLll up load so I'm back on the stock puter now and like several others :mad :mad :mad .
I'll get an Ed Wright program probably or if I can find a close by LS1 Edit I would use it?? Best of luck if you opt for the PLll. If you get one, that is, it should be very helpful.
I'll get an Ed Wright program probably or if I can find a close by LS1 Edit I would use it?? Best of luck if you opt for the PLll. If you get one, that is, it should be very helpful.
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From: Chicagoland Illinois
Re: POWERLOADER REGRETS (XTrooper)
silversport: This is a moot question. Even if you decide to get a Powerloader like I did before Christmas of last year, you'll wait months and months before you'll see it if ever. Ordering mine last December I thought I'd have plenty of time to get it before the weather turned nice, but as the months rolled by I didn't get it and inquiries gave me no hope of ever seeing it. I finally gave up and cancelled my order.
Thanks...I will keep the stock set up until I decide if I will mod it at all...I appreciate ALL the replies... :chevy :seeya
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Re: POWERLOADER REGRETS (gnosys)
:) Waiting for LS1 Edit for 02's here. :yesnod:
:cheers:
:cheers:
:yesnod: Me too!
Drifting
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From: paradise valley az. us
Re: POWERLOADER REGRETS (wallstAL)
When there good there good when there bad life stinks!!!.There a busy place and I've had to bring PCM's back for stock reprograming on many occasions at 60.00 a pop(at the dealer) and then re-down load it.My personal favorite is ls1 edit its nice to put the car on the dyno and squeeze each and every pony you can weve gotten 18 rrwhp increases try to use a tuning shop that has a shop LS1 Edit and even burn a back up copy in case something happens and also make sure there a Dyno-Jet so you can really fine tune advance curves F/A ratio while the motor is going through its 0-150 and make sure the shop knows what there doing.We test drive your car laptop in place and pay very close attention to all diagnostics and try to fool it into throwing codes,only after 100% success do we release the car to you and you can be sure its on the money and not 1 pony is missing.Yours Truly Dave S.
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From: Murphy TX
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Re: POWERLOADER REGRETS (wave_3)
Any shops in the Northeast that do this kind of tuning???
Not on the '01 yet... Should be soon LS1edit is coming.
Not on the '01 yet... Should be soon LS1edit is coming.
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From: Lake Simcoe..... Back in Black baby!!!
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Re: POWERLOADER REGRETS (Buckmaster)
You want EXCELLENT SERVICE? Get this!!!!!!! I faxed Ed Wright my info at about 9AM this morning. I got a call about 1:30PM from his Assistant that she was shipping my "Custom Program" (see sig, no small program) today! That's 4 1/2 hours :eek: :cheers:
Steve Cole is a joke! Going on 5 months for my re-program :mad And I am still trying to get the things fixed from his 1st program AND my mod additions! Empty Promises is definitely the words for Cole! 3 months ago he stated he was working on it and NOTHING. 3 weeks ago I was told he was doing it over the weekend and NOTHING! I will never use Cole again and I caution anyone who does! Am I pissed off? God damn right I am :mad and that is putting it mildly. My true words would get me kicked off the Forum! :mad
Ed Wright is the way to go. Now, that's service! :D
Steve Cole is a joke! Going on 5 months for my re-program :mad And I am still trying to get the things fixed from his 1st program AND my mod additions! Empty Promises is definitely the words for Cole! 3 months ago he stated he was working on it and NOTHING. 3 weeks ago I was told he was doing it over the weekend and NOTHING! I will never use Cole again and I caution anyone who does! Am I pissed off? God damn right I am :mad and that is putting it mildly. My true words would get me kicked off the Forum! :mad
Ed Wright is the way to go. Now, that's service! :D
I remember your intial enthusiastic reports on the PLII, in fact that's what prompted me to order mine. Incidentially, I've had no problems, but mine is a basic upgrade, no major mod's or anything.
Anyway, just wanted you to know I'm feeling your pain. Let us know how Ed Wright's program works, will it be better than PLII?...will you be able to tell any difference between them?
PS: when I had my Impala SS, all the B body guys were using Ed.