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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 03:05 PM
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I wonder how many HPs stock LS1 engine(stock pistons, rods,crankshaft) can handle if I mount 2 turbochargers 1000-1200hp? Should I mount oil injectors for additional pistons oil cooling ? as it usually does on turbo engines? what is RPMs red line for stock engine(head)?

Also, As far as I know LS1 engine has aluminum block, with single camshaft, that means that there is some HP limit for such block.
As I was told, there is another great American engine - 4.6L V8 DOHC 32-valves with iron cast block + supercharger, it is installed in Ford mustang COBRA 2003 in stock. I suppose that iron cast block can handle much more HPs/torque.
Do you know is it possible/difficult to swap COBRA's engine into corvette c5?
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Do you know is it possible/difficult to swap COBRA's engine into corvette c5?
Of course it's possible, as is just about anything, with enough funds/expertise.

Ironically, I see more and more LS motors in mustangs (at the strip), every year.

If you do plan on installing a Ford motor in a Vette, don't expect to get any support(or make any friends here).....
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 03:22 PM
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I think this is the same goofball that wanted to drop in a Front drive system into a C5 the other day.
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 03:56 PM
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Will be interesting to see how all this comes out, if at all.......
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Originally Posted by synca
Hi guys,

I wonder how many HPs stock LS1 engine(stock pistons, rods,crankshaft) can handle if I mount 2 turbochargers 1000-1200hp? Should I mount oil injectors for additional pistons oil cooling ? as it usually does on turbo engines? what is RPMs red line for stock engine(head)?

Also, As far as I know LS1 engine has aluminum block, with single camshaft, that means that there is some HP limit for such block.
As I was told, there is another great American engine - 4.6L V8 DOHC 32-valves with iron cast block + supercharger, it is installed in Ford mustang COBRA 2003 in stock. I suppose that iron cast block can handle much more HPs/torque.
Do you know is it possible/difficult to swap COBRA's engine into corvette c5?
Do you want it Reliable too?

for 1000-1200 hp a billet block may be a wise choice.
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 04:16 PM
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does it have cast iron block with dohc 32-valves head?

Ironically, I see more and more LS motors in mustangs (at the strip), every year.
actually, I am not chasing for a bigger block, I just want to have a middle, compact, strong engine with iron cast block to boost it up to 2-2.5+ bars with 2 turbochargers(1 per head) and spool the engine up to 7000-8000 RPMs.

As for me, I want to install toyota engine 2jz 3L in-line engine as it is on toyota Supra. for installing 4wd into corvette, it is better choice actually. But I consider other compact american engines with cast iron block, so it would be the place in the motor bay for front reducer (differential), and other parts., that's why I am asking that question.


I think this is the same goofball that wanted to drop in a Front drive system into a C5 the other day.
yes, you are right actually. Rear WD is not suitable for me at all, I want 4wd only! and I am going to install it. dont ask me how I would do that, we have much experience in that matter.

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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by synca
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does it have cast iron block with dohc 32-valves head?



actually, I am not chasing for a bigger block, I just want to have a middle, compact, strong engine with iron cast block to boost it up to 2-2.5+ bars with 2 turbochargers(1 per head) and spool the engine up to 7000-8000 RPMs.

As for me, I want to install toyota engine 2jz 3L in-line engine as it is on toyota Supra. for installing 4wd into corvette, it is better choice actually. But I consider other compact american engines with cast iron block, so it would be the place in the motor bay for front reducer (differential), and other parts., that's why I am asking that question.




yes, you are right actually. Rear WD is not suitable for me at all, I want 4wd only! and I am going to install it. dont ask me how I would do that, we have much experience in that matter.
Much experience Go buy a Subaru.

better yet, go get one of those old Mitsubisi 3000GT's with all wheel drive, 4 wheel steering and twin turbos. A PLUMBING NIGHTMARE-ought to keep ypu out of Vodka for quite some time!!
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for 1000-1200 hp a billet block may be a wise choice.
I am sorry, but I am new to american motor industry. All my cars have top toyota engines (1JZ / 2JZ-GTE etc.). could you please describe what is it?

I see that corvette engines have names like LS1, LS2, LS3 ... but at the same time I cannot find the name of COBRA's engine, it's only have description V8 4.6L dohc, do you know why so?
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Originally Posted by synca
I am sorry, but I am new to american motor industry. All my cars have top toyota engines (1JZ / 2JZ-GTE etc.). could you please describe what is it?

I see that corvette engines have names like LS1, LS2, LS3 ... but at the same time I cannot find the name of COBRA's engine, it's only have description V8 4.6L dohc, do you know why so?
The new Ford engine is called COYOTE. It's a 5.0 liter.
The LS9 is the 640hp 2 valve engine in the new ZR1 Corvette.
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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better yet, go get one of those old Mitsubisi 3000GT's with all wheel drive, 4 wheel steering and twin turbos. A PLUMBING NIGHTMARE-ought to keep ypu out of Vodka for quite some time!!
you would better share the info I need, rather than trolling me.

ps. I don't like subaru, and MMC, that's another conception. that all models have full time 4wd system.

4wd system that I am going to install, will have possibility to switch off front WD from the button(electronically), so you will have stock RWD, then push button again to have 50/50 4wd, the same system as Nissan Skyline GT-R have. Basically you can start with 50/50 4wd, and then after 100km/h speed or on 3rd gear you can switch off front wd and go on Rear WD only.
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No need for a billet block for 1,00-1,200HP. Pick up an LQ9 cast iron block and fill it with quality internal parts. There is no need to spin it to 8K RPM unless you just want to. In that case, you may want to look into a solid roller setup.
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Originally Posted by synca
you would better share the info I need, rather than trolling me.

ps. I don't like subaru, and MMC, that's another conception. that all models have full time 4wd system.

4wd system that I am going to install, will have possibility to switch off front WD from the button(electronically), so you will have stock RWD, then push button again to have 50/50 4wd, the same system as Nissan Skyline GT-R have. Basically you can start with 50/50 4wd, and then after 100km/h speed or on 3rd gear you can switch off front wd and go on Rear WD only.
Whose trolling who? This is a SILLY project-why hack up a Corvette and make it a Frankenstein? Maybe you should just buy a Monster truck and slap a Corvette Body on it.
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dougbfresh
The new Ford engine is called COYOTE. It's a 5.0 liter.
The LS9 is the 640hp 2 valve engine in the new ZR1 Corvette.
no..no.. that's not new. it was installed in ford SVT Mustang Cobra 2003-2004
4.6L V8 32-valves iron cast block + supercharger:



do you know the name of this engine?
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by synca
no..no.. that's not new. it was installed in ford SVT Mustang Cobra 2003-2004
4.6L V8 32-valves iron cast block + supercharger:

do you know the name of this engine?
Yes, it was 500 hp in this trim. The new 5.0 is a better engine.
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Originally Posted by dougbfresh
Whose trolling who? This is a SILLY project-why hack up a Corvette and make it a Frankenstein? Maybe you should just buy a Monster truck and slap a Corvette Body on it.
because there is no a car in this world that could satisfy all my needs.

I can just choose a body of the car, and corvette c5 looks better than any others.
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Originally Posted by dougbfresh
Yes, it was 500 hp in this trim. The new 5.0 is a better engine.
hmm...interesing.. will look, thanks!!!
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because there is no a car in this world that could satisfy all my needs.

I can just choose a body of the car, and corvette c5 looks better than any others.
That's why they make DIFFERENT cars/trucks-because no single vehicle can do everything well.
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Originally Posted by dougbfresh
Yes, it was 500 hp in this trim. The new 5.0 is a better engine.
I just looked at this engine, so that's not suitable, because:

a) it has aluminum block
b) big compression ratio 11:1 - that's not good foor big boost

but I found another similar engine: V8 DOHC 4-valve 5.4 L iron cast block +supercharger, cars with that engine:
Ford GT500 2007–2010
Ford SVT Cobra R

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Modular_engine
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Originally Posted by synca
I am sorry, but I am new to american motor industry. All my cars have top toyota engines (1JZ / 2JZ-GTE etc.).
Ugghh....you lost me at Toyota.....

Good luck.
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