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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 12:50 PM
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I putting mine back togeather after a lifter swap, and I over turned the first bolt by mistake. I went like a 180 degrees instead of 90 because my batteries were low on my Torque wrench and it diden't beep at me, so I backed it out. Should I replace the 1 bolt or am I ok to reuse it?
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 01:07 PM
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Replace it!!! do not take any chances on head bolts, if it breaks it will destroy more than you can imagine!
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Yes, I agree with replacing it but the torque sequence and settings, the first pass only is done to FtLbs of torque. The remaining turns are all done by "degrees" and the last pass is extremely difficult. So the question comes, at which part of the sequence did you turn it a full 180 deg?
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That's what I thought, cheep insurance, what about the head gasket?
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Yes, I agree with replacing it but the torque sequence and settings, the first pass only is done to FtLbs of torque. The remaining turns are all done by "degrees" and the last pass is extremely difficult. So the question comes, at which part of the sequence did you turn it a full 180 deg?
Went to 22ft lbs first on all of them. then 180 or so on the first bolt only. It should have been 90.

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Did you use oem bolts or ARP? I think the ARP ones can be reused.
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Went to 22ft lbs first on all of them. then 180 or so on the first bolt only. It should have been 90.
So did you stop there or continue? Question is in regards that if you stopped there, now the head is not down properly at that point. I tend to doubt you warped it. Depends on where you stopped the process and what the status is now. As stated, if you used ARP bolts, no issue, but OEM, then personally speaking, at that second turn, you are turning in degrees, not waiting for a beep from a torque wrench. The implication is that you were torquing to FtLbs instead of degrees which is wrong therefore you won't know what the final turn should be.
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Did you use oem bolts or ARP? I think the ARP ones can be reused.
No bolt can be re-used when taken past its elastic limit and yield point during tightning, regardless of the manufacturer.
Perhaps you should read up on fastener tensioning before making incorrect recommendations like this one.

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So did you stop there or continue? Question is in regards that if you stopped there, now the head is not down properly at that point. I tend to doubt you warped it. Depends on where you stopped the process and what the status is now. As stated, if you used ARP bolts, no issue, but OEM, then personally speaking, at that second turn, you are turning in degrees, not waiting for a beep from a torque wrench. The implication is that you were torquing to FtLbs instead of degrees which is wrong therefore you won't know what the final turn should be.
I stopped there, I knew I screwed up. I'm picking up new bolts tonight and pulling the head off and running a stright edge across it just to be sure. I was useing an degee torque wrench. I'm a mobile tool dealer. I have lots of tools, just not sure how they work sometimes.

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