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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 09:19 AM
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There are websites that show ethanol free stations near you, just fyi. I drive the extra 15min for my cars
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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Gasolines contain different additives depending on who sells it. I used to deliver fuel to various stations and the ONLY difference in what I delivered was the amount of octane booster, detergent or some other ingredient that that paticular station wanted. Like Texaco and Shell always added detergents. Most of the well managed stations pumped the water out of the bottom of their tanks and changed their filters on a regular basis (I also delivered filters for the pumps so I know there are still some guy's out there that are proud of what they sell). I added it by dumping five gallon buckets directly into the tank. Many stations today do not add these chemicals because of the expense so what your buying from mainly the quick-serve type stations is the same "economy" grade fuel. Some don't even offer higher octane fuels. There are still some privately owned stations that will not sell gas with ethanol. With a little luck you can find one. Most of the time there will be a sign indicating the No-Ethanol fuel. Most gasolines today start breaking down or going sour (smell it), in about 6 months or even less.
Stabil helps, especially marine stabil. It is now recommended by most marine and small engine dealers and it works very well for me. It also prevents the ethanol effect of softening and dissolving some types of rubber gaskets and hoses.
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric D
Let’s see, $6 for 4oz, there are 128oz to a gallon, so 128/4*6 = $192 per gallon. That doesn’t seem like cheap insurance to me for something not proven to work by an independent source.
Flawed logic. See next post below:

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And a gallon of Stabil would last you for 320 gallons! Who in there right mind would want that. If you are paying $6 for 4oz you are getting ripped off. I buy 32oz for $11. So that is $.34/ oz. The Corvette holds 18 gallons. Divide that by 2.5 (amount of gas that 1 ounce of stabil treats) and you get 7.2. Just make it 7.5 for ease of use and you have invested a whole $2.55 to help battle the system from getting gummed up. I think I'll pay that huge sum rather than tempting fate.

If Stabil doesn't work, than why doesn't my chipper get gummed up any longer when I use it. It gummed up the two years prior. So why not now? It is the same grade gas, from the same station. I am not saying you are wrong and I am right. I am just wondering what you think would do that? Either way, good luck to you sir. I hope you never get gummed up equipment. What a pain in the rear it is.
Exactly. That $2.55 will save you an injector cleaning/replacement bill at the very least.

Originally Posted by leadfoot4
Where I live, you cannot readily purchase gasoline that doesn't have at least 10% ethanol.....
It's a problem here, too.

Originally Posted by retired08
Gasolines contain different additives depending on who sells it. I used to deliver fuel to various stations and the ONLY difference in what I delivered was the amount of octane booster, detergent or some other ingredient that that paticular station wanted. Like Texaco and Shell always added detergents. Most of the well managed stations pumped the water out of the bottom of their tanks and changed their filters on a regular basis (I also delivered filters for the pumps so I know there are still some guy's out there that are proud of what they sell). I added it by dumping five gallon buckets directly into the tank. Many stations today do not add these chemicals because of the expense so what your buying from mainly the quick-serve type stations is the same "economy" grade fuel. Some don't even offer higher octane fuels. There are still some privately owned stations that will not sell gas with ethanol. With a little luck you can find one. Most of the time there will be a sign indicating the No-Ethanol fuel. Most gasolines today start breaking down or going sour (smell it), in about 6 months or even less.
Stabil helps, especially marine stabil. It is now recommended by most marine and small engine dealers and it works very well for me. It also prevents the ethanol effect of softening and dissolving some types of rubber gaskets and hoses.
Exactly.

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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LouWags
Flawed logic. See next post below:

My point is the additive manufacturer are making good money selling something that might not even work.

Exactly. That $2.55 will save you an injector cleaning/replacement bill at the very least.

I would love to see an independent report that supports this.

It's a problem here, too.

Exactly.

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Wag,

My “flawed logic” goes something like this. You have NOT shown nor anyone else that Stabil contains anything to improve the longevity of stored fuel. There are plenty of opinions and recommendations, but no facts. If you feel this product is the end all to injector and other component gumming issues then by all means use it, it is your vehicle. I won’t my choice. I believe it’s NOT NEEDED if you top off the tanks before storage.

The primary cause of oxidative gum are heat and moisture. Moisture exposure can be greatly reduced by topping the fuel tank off before storage. The amount of head space above the fuel is the primary issue. This head space can contain air that contains moisture that will come out of suspension during temperature shifts causing condensation. Fuel production has standards that have to be met. This is just one quote from volumes of books out there on fuels, “ASTM D 4814 requires a minimum of 240 min (4h) breakpoint which is sufficient for most storage and distribution systems.” Quote from Fuels and lubricants handbook: technology, properties, performance, and testing, Volume 1.

Why does it always seems to be friends of friends of friends that tell the stories of fuel storage disasters. Personally I believe these are very old stories that are repeated and repeated on the web.

The EPA has more regulations then all of us could read through in a lifetime. I have one question, when you have a bad gummy mess of fuel, how does one legally get rid of it? If gummy bad fuel was a big factor where is all the hundreds of gallons of this stuff going? My point, bad fuel is not a common issue. If you wish, you can believe that everyone is using Stabil and this is why it’s not a common issue, I don’t buy it. I believe it is not a common issue to have bad fuels because of the requirements placed on production to produce stable fuels.

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