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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 10:12 AM
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long tubes are best for road courses and drag racing because they make the most power. they are also more expensive.

shortys are better for autox because they weigh less than long tubes. you can't effectively use 350hp in an autocross event, so the weight savings helps more than added power. they are also bolt on and dont require a tune.

it depends on what you are into, how much money you are willing to spend, and how much time you are willing to spend for installation.
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Originally Posted by SaberD
long tubes are best for road courses and drag racing because they make the most power. they are also more expensive.

shortys are better for autox because they weigh less than long tubes. you can't effectively use 350hp in an autocross event, so the weight savings helps more than added power. they are also bolt on and dont require a tune.

it depends on what you are into, how much money you are willing to spend, and how much time you are willing to spend for installation.
I dropped a significant amount of weight when I switched over to long tubes as I deleted both sets of cats, also while a tune is not required you will most likley throw codes for your o2 sensors but other than that it should run fine.
Another thing while you may not use all of the 350 hp that is made at the peak you will use the power under the curve which also sees an increase, but then again Im not one to "cheap" out because then I will regret it later.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SaberD
long tubes are best for road courses and drag racing because they make the most power. they are also more expensive.

shortys are better for autox because they weigh less than long tubes. you can't effectively use 350hp in an autocross event, so the weight savings helps more than added power. they are also bolt on and dont require a tune.

it depends on what you are into, how much money you are willing to spend, and how much time you are willing to spend for installation.
that is so wrong

the internet is so full of "opinions"
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by printmanjackson
that is so wrong

the internet is so full of "opinions"
sometimes you can get better lap times with less horsepower. you only need as much hp as you can put down in the course, which typically isnt much in an autox. having more power than you can put down on the course is actually a disadvantage because you have less throttle control. In that case, weight reduction is your best bet on better times, not more power.

In the case of a road course, there are more straights and wider turns that allow you to put down more power. in this case, power will play a much larger role than in autox. you want to put down as much power as possible throughout the track, so the obvious choice would be long tubes. they might make a little less on the lower end than some shorties, but the long tubes always result in a higher mean effective pressure.

with a similar post-header exhaust system on long tubes, the system for the shorties will always weigh lighter. there is just more material with a long tube setup, and that is undeniable.

i guess one thing that i posted that was wrong is sometimes a set of decent shorties will cost more than a set of cheap long tubes, so they arent always less expensive.

i know that you don't need a tune because I ran shorties for 3 months without a tune with no problems.

I hope you understand now.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dennis Wilson
Its not what you said, Its the way you said it. You have a nice day ! Hear? ARH. headers are best
You now need to attack printmanjackson because he's not being a good little kiddy....

Or you could just not let your panties bunch up so badly...

PS, no offence meant to printmanjackson by implying you are a kiddy.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 01:12 PM
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so what's the best headers?



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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 04:59 PM
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No headers! Just let your heads run open straight to the world!
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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Cold air intake and headers for you. Two of the best for both.

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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by lionelhutz
Try a search instead of wasting everyone's time with this worn out debate.
Welcome to the forum! There is a search function at the top, Just type in Headers and you will find lots of info and opinions on the various headers! Best of luck to you !
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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[QUOTE=skydver;1579360829]which is better "long tube" or "shorty" headers.
I have an all stock C5 (6 speed)and I am only planning on headers and cold air and a tune.[/QUOT]

American Racing Headers, Jet Hot Coating, Long Tube with 5/8" primaries, 3" collectors with X-Pipe and High Flow CATs. Easy to install. Would also suggest Corsa Pace Car Tiger Shark Exhaust System. Good sound & good looks[/FONT]
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 06:49 PM
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I guess it was time for another crazy header thread... I prefer the "search button".

Here's how these threads typically go... "Which header is better: A or B?"

All users of header "A" - we love header A, they're the best - don't believe the hype of header B.
All users of header "B" - we love header B, they're the best - don't believe the hype of header A.

Then you get users of other header brands, "Hey, don't forget to look into header C and D, they're great too." Header C and D are cheaper and perform almost as well as A and B.

Eventually, questionable claims are made by members resulting in the actual header manufacturers to chime in and poke each other in the eyes...

Hit the "REPLAY" button to run scenario again.

Seriously, why the hell are you modifying your Corvette? It's perfect the way it is. You would never catch me making any changes to my C5.
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you just can't explain it any better than that!
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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so lets get this straight.......I have learned to use the search function FIRST then ask questions.

I have also learned that I am not the only smartass online. thanks for All the comments, I did enjoy reading them

and lastly this a "FORD vs Chevy" subject.

thanks all. Its been real
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AlohaC5
Seriously, why the hell are you modifying your Corvette? It's perfect the way it is. You would never catch me making any changes to my C5.
33 MPG and I think 35 would be better. just trying to see what it will give me
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by skydver
33 MPG and I think 35 would be better. just trying to see what it will give me
You want to spend approx. $1,000 (or more) plus installation and tuning to improve your fuel mileage?

Save your money and just make loud "Vrooom Vrooom" noises in the car

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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 09:23 PM
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Save your money and just make loud "Vrooom Vrooom" noises in the car
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Originally Posted by skydver
33 MPG and I think 35 would be better. just trying to see what it will give me
You are kidding, right?
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by skydver
which is better "long tube" or "shorty" headers.
I have an all stock C5 (6 speed)and I am only planning on headers and cold air and a tune.
For increased H.P./performance the longtube headers are better. As for which brand is better, that is hard to say. If price is not an object then ARH, Kooks, LG, Stainless Works and several others are a good choice.

On the lower end of the price scale XSPower offers great value and is what I run. Some like OBX while others do not.

I hope I have answered your question without any wisecracks about the "search" button.

I appreciated a straight answer when I first joined the forum and still do even after using the search button also.

Welcome and I am sure you will find many members willing to help you in the future. Do not be discouraged.
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