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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 07:06 PM
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I'm thinking about wraping my Headers to keep down engine compartment temps and to quiet down the valve train noise.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 07:14 PM
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You might ask your header manufacturer what they think about header wrapping. Most deny warranty if they've been wrapped.

If they're mild steel construction, header wrapping will degrade the steel. I've seen mild steel headers literally crumble, held together by the wrap only.

You will benefit more from a ceramic metallic coating in the long run.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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Don't wrap them. They will void your warranty and ruin your headers
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 08:56 PM
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I believe most are wrapping the parts they want to protect i.e wires, starter motor
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 09:01 PM
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I have mine wrapped.

Stainless.

I would do it again, but they smoked like a brush fire when I first ran the motor.

Baked off all the stuff that would smoke.
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What are all the bennifits of wraping?

Thanks!
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 10:05 PM
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What are all the bennifits of wraping?

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Reduces the motor compartment temps.

Insulates heat from melting anything touching the header (which shouldn't be anyway).

Insulates noise.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 10:19 PM
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I herd it also helps complete the burn inside the pipes by making it hotter. Not sure if thats true or not.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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I've been running Dynamax long tube headers for 7 years or more unwrapped with no serious engine bay temp issues and a much quicker exhaust "cool down" when the engine is shut off VS stock exhaust. SS headers are great.I've never been a fan of wraping exhaust plumbing.
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I herd it also helps complete the burn inside the pipes by making it hotter. Not sure if thats true or not.
I have not heard anything about a burn, but keeping the exhaust gasses hotter means the air will flow out of the exhaust faster.

The problem is that the header wrapping gets wet while being driven in bad weather, while the car is being washed, etc. The wrapping also holds any contaminants in the water like salts and other chemicals. The wrapping doesn't dry easily and your headers end up staying in that moist and potentially chemical laden environment longer than they should.

The moist environment will cause corrosion. Stainless steel is not immune to corrosion. It is just a lot more resistant to it, especially when given ample opportunity to dry.
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Not a smart idea! Get them ceramic coated and be done with it and never look back!

And they look really fugly after awhile!

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I wrapped a set of mild steel headers on my old Firebird. There are some other down sides. I found when installing on what was basically an LT4 engine at that time.

It is a royal pita to do. To do it right, you need to pull them from the car and reinstall without damaging/dislodging the wrap. The wrap interfered with the header bolts. I think they interfered with servicing the spark plugs too.

Ceramic coating is what I would do if given the opportunity.
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I was thinking about just wraping the first 4 inchs or so around the plug wire area. I'm having a misfire issue because of heat around the plug wires.
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i had my lg's coated by jethot, mainly to keep them looking good but also to help reduce the temps... i had the headers on my old trans am coated by jethot and 3 years later when i sold the car they looked the same as the first day i installed them... it costs about $300 plus shipping to have them coated which may be a little much for some people, especially after spending $1200-$1500 for a header system in some cases, but in the long run i think it's worth it if you have the cash to spend
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Some of the stuff you guys worry about, lol. Worry about getting into the 8's or a better track time first, then you can start to worry about the small stuff.
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Originally Posted by TheDEfan
I was thinking about just wraping the first 4 inchs or so around the plug wire area. I'm having a misfire issue because of heat around the plug wires.
then there is something else wrong. i am using GMPP wires surrounded the oem heat shields on my TSP headers and not one is even coming close to touching. A year later and the wires still look new under the shields.
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Kook sent my headers straight to Jethot and then to me. Do yourself a favor and just have then coated.
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Originally Posted by chaase
I have not heard anything about a burn, but keeping the exhaust gasses hotter means the air will flow out of the exhaust faster.

The problem is that the header wrapping gets wet while being driven in bad weather, while the car is being washed, etc. The wrapping also holds any co§ntaminants in the water like salts and other chemicals. The wrapping doesn't dry easily and your headers end up staying in that moist and potentially chemical laden environment longer than they should.

The moist environment will cause corrosion. Stainless steel is not immune to corrosion. It is just a lot more resistant to it, especially when given ample opportunity to dry.
Now that is something i never thought of or heard of.very good point and helped with my decision.....
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Originally Posted by rnelson11
Kook sent my headers straight to Jethot and then to me. Do yourself a favor and just have then coated.
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Header wrap should be illegal!
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by baxsom
then there is something else wrong. i am using GMPP wires surrounded the oem heat shields on my TSP headers and not one is even coming close to touching. A year later and the wires still look new under the shields.
I swiched from MSD's to the GMPP's with the heat sheilds and heat socks also. It was okay for about a 100 miles and now my missfire is back. I had 3 plugs on the right side of the engine with carbon tracks on the insulators with the MSD's. I have a few of the boots that are a fraction of an inch away from the headers. I'm starting to wonder if I have a lean condition. I have heard that will cause that problem also where the spark will jump from the connector to ground inside the boot, rather than from the electrode to the ground with a lean condition. I'm not real sure about that one.
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