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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 11:30 PM
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Besides running a little cooler, what are the benefits of using a lower temp t-stat? Thanks for helping out an old, old school guy!
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Well in these cars your actually not going to gain anything. The factory thermostat is 187° which is perfect for these cars. The LS motors run most efficiently between 190 and 210 making the most hp and getting the best gas mileage in that range.
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Lower oil temps and higher oil condensation. The stock thermostat can be altered to open lower, which I did to mine. I plan on moving the opening temp back up this spring as the oil temp is not getting to where I feel comfortable when it is cool outside.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 08:32 AM
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Lower oil temps and higher oil condensation. The stock thermostat can be altered to open lower, which I did to mine. I plan on moving the opening temp back up this spring as the oil temp is not getting to where I feel comfortable when it is cool outside.
Is that really a problem in a car where the vast overwhelming majority of the owners change their oil too early anyway? For what its worth, I did a 160 (which must have altered fan points to be effective) and didnt notice more than a 10 degree drops in oil temp in S Florida. Once the T stat is open it flows the same regardless of what it is rated at. Only a UOA will tell if the lower temps are actually doing anything to the oil. The last one I sent in of Mobil 1 at 4K miles came back fine.
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Originally Posted by Tj Pal
Besides running a little cooler, what are the benefits of using a lower temp t-stat? Thanks for helping out an old, old school guy!
Makes the T-stat manufacturer a little richer.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 11:00 AM
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Besides running a little cooler, what are the benefits of using a lower temp t-stat? Thanks for helping out an old, old school guy!
Nothing.
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Nothing.
But carries some negatives.
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Isn't the STOCK thermo 195* ???? I think so---
There ARE advantages to running colder themos beyond just a cooler engine---
1. it lowers the underhood temp--The IAT sensor in these cars are supposed to read "incoming air" and adjusts timing( subtracting some) as the temp goes up -BUT it actually ends up getting heat soaked and reads underhood temps--EVEN if the outside air was 70* if you are idling or driving in town the IAT can spike up to 150* !!!! And then it takes a long time to cool it down --The whole time it's removing timing--At 150* as much as 5-10 * that's huge !!! especially when these LS engine only run maybe 19-27* at WOT
2. Same for the coolant temp sensor--only not as severe--at 210* it can remove 2-3*
3. All the underhood parts last longer when the underhood temps are cooler--belts--hoses-gaskets--wires--connections--( I still have all the original beslts and hosed on my '98)
4. If you have an A4--it will cool the tranny 10-30* colder---
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Originally Posted by tblu92
Isn't the STOCK thermo 195* ???? I think so---
In 2001 the stock thermostat IS 187* (Owner's Manual page 6-76)
Not sure if this is also true for other years.
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver Vert 01
In 2001 the stock thermostat IS 187* (Owner's Manual page 6-76)
Not sure if this is also true for other years.
Yes, on a cool day coasting down a hill or something like that my temp would drop to less than 190 with the stock thermostat.
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My tuner set the fans to turn on a little sooner, but I thought if I went to maybe a 180* t-stat I might be able to keep the temp around 190* or so to hopefully not lose to much timing. Thanks again for all your input.
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The cheapest way to try this is to shim your thermostat and see how it works rather then spend a lot of money. That way if it doesn't work out, remove the shim.
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
The cheapest way to try this is to shim your thermostat and see how it works rather then spend a lot of money. That way if it doesn't work out, remove the shim.


With just a little trial and error, you can fine tune your stock 187* thermostat very easily.
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