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Well in these cars your actually not going to gain anything. The factory thermostat is 187° which is perfect for these cars. The LS motors run most efficiently between 190 and 210 making the most hp and getting the best gas mileage in that range.
Lower oil temps and higher oil condensation. The stock thermostat can be altered to open lower, which I did to mine. I plan on moving the opening temp back up this spring as the oil temp is not getting to where I feel comfortable when it is cool outside.
Lower oil temps and higher oil condensation. The stock thermostat can be altered to open lower, which I did to mine. I plan on moving the opening temp back up this spring as the oil temp is not getting to where I feel comfortable when it is cool outside.
Is that really a problem in a car where the vast overwhelming majority of the owners change their oil too early anyway? For what its worth, I did a 160 (which must have altered fan points to be effective) and didnt notice more than a 10 degree drops in oil temp in S Florida. Once the T stat is open it flows the same regardless of what it is rated at. Only a UOA will tell if the lower temps are actually doing anything to the oil. The last one I sent in of Mobil 1 at 4K miles came back fine.
Isn't the STOCK thermo 195* ???? I think so---
There ARE advantages to running colder themos beyond just a cooler engine---
1. it lowers the underhood temp--The IAT sensor in these cars are supposed to read "incoming air" and adjusts timing( subtracting some) as the temp goes up -BUT it actually ends up getting heat soaked and reads underhood temps--EVEN if the outside air was 70* if you are idling or driving in town the IAT can spike up to 150* !!!! And then it takes a long time to cool it down --The whole time it's removing timing--At 150* as much as 5-10 * that's huge !!! especially when these LS engine only run maybe 19-27* at WOT
2. Same for the coolant temp sensor--only not as severe--at 210* it can remove 2-3*
3. All the underhood parts last longer when the underhood temps are cooler--belts--hoses-gaskets--wires--connections--( I still have all the original beslts and hosed on my '98)
4. If you have an A4--it will cool the tranny 10-30* colder---
My tuner set the fans to turn on a little sooner, but I thought if I went to maybe a 180* t-stat I might be able to keep the temp around 190* or so to hopefully not lose to much timing. Thanks again for all your input.
The cheapest way to try this is to shim your thermostat and see how it works rather then spend a lot of money. That way if it doesn't work out, remove the shim.
The cheapest way to try this is to shim your thermostat and see how it works rather then spend a lot of money. That way if it doesn't work out, remove the shim.
With just a little trial and error, you can fine tune your stock 187* thermostat very easily.