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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 07:10 PM
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Well I've been slowly bringing my '99 frc up to speed via maintenance, (plugs, wires, clutch flush, metal endlinks) and have a question regarding the 02 sensors. Are these a wear item that should be replaced? The car has about 35,000 on it. I've read that they can get lazy, does this affect performance? Would I gain anything by changing them? (and no, no codes at this time)

Thanks for answering my dumb question,

Patrick
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 09:11 PM
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Probably not if you are not getting a Check Engine light with codes indicating an 02 sensor problem.
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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On the O2 sensors, if it ain't broke don't fix it. You will get a code on the DIC and a check engine light when or if one of them starts to go.
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 09:32 PM
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HA!!!!!!!!!!! Very good question!

The proper way to see if the O2 Sensors are performing correctly is with data logging soft ware OR a scanner that has live sensor monitoring capability.

When they work properly, they cycle from (approx)100 millivolts to 900 millivolts to 100 millivolts............

The lazy non functional ones don't cycle and hang out at the reference voltage (450 millivolts)

So, data log and see what yours are doing or find a scanner that has LIVE SENSOR DATA and see what there doing.

I seriously doubt that yours are bad at that mileage.

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Old May 1, 2012 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DownByLaw
Howdy all,

Well I've been slowly bringing my '99 frc up to speed via maintenance, (plugs, wires, clutch flush, metal endlinks) and have a question regarding the 02 sensors. Are these a wear item that should be replaced? The car has about 35,000 on it. I've read that they can get lazy, does this affect performance? Would I gain anything by changing them? (and no, no codes at this time)

Thanks for answering my dumb question,

Patrick

I have a 2000 vert. The engine light came on a few hours before a dyno tune. The problem was a bad sensor so I am getting both replaced ( two knock sensors under the manifold). My vert only has 17,000 miles on it and according to the tuner, its rare for a knock sensor to fail with that kind of mileage.

Yes, a lazy sensor can affect performance according to the tuner.

The cost of the sensors are around $60.00 each. You may want to consider getting them replaced especially if you do the work.

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Old May 1, 2012 | 09:03 AM
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Although you think this is a silly question, one thing to keep in mind is the correct wiring pattern of the 02 Sensors. When my torque tube had to be replaced, the shop crossed them and car ran like crap and had codes. I swapped the 02 Sensors and it all went away.

Simple technique is to write 1/1 on connector/sensor and 2/2 on the other connector/sensor so you cant cross them accidentally. I used a permanent magic marker.
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Old May 1, 2012 | 10:40 AM
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It would only be possible to miswire the rears, correct?

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Old May 1, 2012 | 09:22 PM
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Thanks all for the replies. I suppose next time I drop it off for an oil change I can get my mechanic to get a reading on them to see how they are operating. I was surprised to find the original plugs needed changing with so few miles, hence the question about the 02's. (plugs had missing pucks) The car runs quite well, so I'm not worried, but I'm glad to have all of your insights.

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