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Old May 12, 2012 | 03:19 AM
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Wow thanks. That answered the question.
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Old May 12, 2012 | 04:12 AM
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Wow thanks. That answered the question.
Answered what question?

On the ohms scale.....it is not a pot, for sure.
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Old May 12, 2012 | 05:31 AM
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deff not a pot I'm going to open it up tomorrow.
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Old May 12, 2012 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RonSSNova
Answered what question?

On the ohms scale.....it is not a pot, for sure.
Since the manual mentions two channels and a phase difference between them, I wonder if it's an incremental rotary encoder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_...tary_encoder)?
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Since the manual mentions two channels and a phase difference between them, I wonder if it's an incremental rotary encoder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_...tary_encoder)?
I would imagine that is exactly what it is!
These just may be repairable.

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Old May 12, 2012 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by absolutscharf
Since the manual mentions two channels and a phase difference between them, I wonder if it's an incremental rotary encoder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_...tary_encoder)?
gave it a quick read, sounds about right.

Ok so I'm going to open the SWPS up. I see a glossy border shown in the pic below, looks to be some kind of adhesive, I think I'll start by removing that and seeing if I can get this apart without destroying it

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I'm anxious to see what is in there. I have one on the way to take apart as well, but you are beating me to it!

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The new sensor comes fitted with a pin which makes sure it's installed in the correct alignment on the shaft. The pin is removed once the sensor is fitted. This is to make sure the correct voltage is output when the steering wheel is on center.

If it is repairable, you'll need to work out whether its just a case of reinserting a pin to re-align it.

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working on grinding this adhesive out, either it's fairly deep in there or I'm cutting into the housing, seems like it's the adhesive though since the dust from it is mostly a brown color not black.
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Old May 14, 2012 | 11:19 AM
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sorry guys had to take a break for Mothers Day, will have it opened up tonight.
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sorry guys I don't really have time to explain my findings right now, but I figured I'd post up the pics.











this last pic is the area underneath the connector pins, there is a small PCB there and just above is some type of sensor? I'll take that apart later and explain a little more when I have time.
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Well, I'll be. It is a gear reduction pot.
That looks to be worn out.

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Well, I'll be. It is a gear reduction pot.

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Not alone. See the two circles of tiny slots in the shiny metal ring in pic 1? Those are typical for an encoder. I wouldn't be surprised if you'd find two optical interruptors on that PCB, each for one row.

It also looks like the pot is directly driven by the steering shaft (the metal contact in pic 3 slides over the large PCB in pic 4) - no idea what those gears are for...

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Looking forward to hearing the explanation. I have a worn out sensor right now.
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Originally Posted by absolutscharf
Not alone. See the two circles of tiny slots in the shiny metal ring in pic 1? Those are typical for an encoder. I wouldn't be surprised if you'd find two optical interruptors on that PCB, each for one row.

It also looks like the pot is directly driven by the steering shaft (the metal contact in pic 3 slides over the large PCB in pic 4) - no idea what those gears are for...

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Ah, now I see them.
The steering shaft drives the middle gear which drives the smaller gear (partially visible) which has a little gear on the bottom of it (you can't see) which drives the large gear.

The POT could be measured by itself.

Interesting.

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Old May 15, 2012 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DeeGee
Looking forward to hearing the explanation. I have a worn out sensor right now.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the SWPS is NOT serviceable nor do I think anyone will be reproducing anytime soon.
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So I'm guessing there is probably no way to adapt the later 01-04 sensor either?
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Old May 16, 2012 | 11:57 AM
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So I'm guessing there is probably no way to adapt the later 01-04 sensor either?
depends upon the resistance values of the newer sensor, I assume they are different hence the different part #'s. I suppose manufacturers could have been switched, I don't know? if I can find a newer sensor I can compare the two.
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Originally Posted by absolutscharf
Not alone. See the two circles of tiny slots in the shiny metal ring in pic 1? Those are typical for an encoder. I wouldn't be surprised if you'd find two optical interruptors on that PCB, each for one row.

It also looks like the pot is directly driven by the steering shaft (the metal contact in pic 3 slides over the large PCB in pic 4) - no idea what those gears are for...

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you are correct there is a optical interrupter on the backside of the PCB seen in pic #5
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