blackwing to easy
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blackwing to easy
installed black wing this morning took about 45 mins.would have been faster but couldnt figure how the stock box came out .how does the car breath with that stock air box .drove it a little felt stronger. the streets were wet so i couldnt jump on it like i wanted to . :cool: :yesnod:
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Re: blackwing to easy (johnnyvettes)
Not very well, that is how it breathed with the stock system! You will really enjoy the Blackwing, IMHO, it is the best single performance mod you can do.
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Re: blackwing to easy (cortex)
yes i put the hood seal on it came with exit28 had a good deal on it :cheers:
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Re: blackwing to easy (cortex)
Is the hood seal a requirement for the Blackwing?
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Re: blackwing to easy (cortex)
It is not a requirement but I would highly, highly recommend the hood seal for several reasons. First and formost, it prevents water from getting on the filter element, which could lead to hydrolock on open element filters like the Blackwing. Second, it helps to pressurize the air filter area which gets the filter more air to breath, and thirdly it helps keep your engine bay clean, so in other words get one, they are too cheap not to. :chevy
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Re: blackwing to easy (WWK888)
How did you guys get the lower (towards the front) grommets on? I have a hard reaching down there (hood is in the way). Any tips? Thanks..
Bill
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Re: blackwing to easy (Craig2000)
It is not a requirement but I would highly, highly recommend the hood seal for several reasons. First and formost, it prevents water from getting on the filter element, which could lead to hydrolock on open element filters like the Blackwing. Second, it helps to pressurize the air filter area which gets the filter more air to breath, and thirdly it helps keep your engine bay clean, so in other words get one, they are too cheap not to. :chevy
Craig:
What is hyrdolock?
And how does he rubber weatherstrip hood seal prevent it?
Is this a common occurence with the Donaldson filter?
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Re: blackwing to easy (johnnyvettes)
I lubed all the mounting post with silcon and the thing just about installed itself. If it wasn't for the worm gear being incorrectly installed (the screw facing down preventing the assembly from laying flat and snugging down on the top posts) I could have done it in 15 minutes.
It's a first class product but a word of warning. I upgraded from the 02 LS6 lid and K&N filter and have not noticed any performance gains. Now junking the OEM setup in favor of the B/W will yield some SOTP improvements. Guess I used up all my SOTP improvements when I installed the LS6 lid.
I went this route as Exit28 had a great deal, I already had a hood seal so I sold mine. Then I sold my LS6 lid/K&N filter for $75 so my out of pocket came to $110. Since I'm searching for 320 RWHP I may not actually feel any GREAT improvement installing the B/W but I may have picked up a few more ponies towards my goal of 320 HP.
My LS6 set up yielded 8 RWHP gain on a dyno and that was without benefit of a PCM re-learn, I dyno'd got a base line of 285 RWHP, pulled the OEM lid installed the LS6 lid/K&N filter and re-dyno'd at 293 RWHP. So like I said I may have already tapped into any FREE HP before installing the B/W.
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[Modified by AFVETTE, 6:57 AM 5/26/2002]
It's a first class product but a word of warning. I upgraded from the 02 LS6 lid and K&N filter and have not noticed any performance gains. Now junking the OEM setup in favor of the B/W will yield some SOTP improvements. Guess I used up all my SOTP improvements when I installed the LS6 lid.
I went this route as Exit28 had a great deal, I already had a hood seal so I sold mine. Then I sold my LS6 lid/K&N filter for $75 so my out of pocket came to $110. Since I'm searching for 320 RWHP I may not actually feel any GREAT improvement installing the B/W but I may have picked up a few more ponies towards my goal of 320 HP.
My LS6 set up yielded 8 RWHP gain on a dyno and that was without benefit of a PCM re-learn, I dyno'd got a base line of 285 RWHP, pulled the OEM lid installed the LS6 lid/K&N filter and re-dyno'd at 293 RWHP. So like I said I may have already tapped into any FREE HP before installing the B/W.
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[Modified by AFVETTE, 6:57 AM 5/26/2002]
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Re: blackwing to easy (AFVETTE)
I am noticing a significant improvement in power with my Blackwing. Could be due to the Stingers also, B.W.'s are especially good for 00's and older because of the SUPER restrictive airbox. I can't believe I waited so long to remove my stock airbox! :smash:
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Re: blackwing to easy (BRADS C5)
be prepared to be possibly diappointed...unless you want to re-program things $$. I was running way too rich after the install. (dyno'ed ~500 miles after install)
Glad I kept the stock unit, it will be going back on...
Hope your experience is different:thumbup:
[Modified by figment, 11:08 AM 5/26/2002]
Glad I kept the stock unit, it will be going back on...
Hope your experience is different:thumbup:
[Modified by figment, 11:08 AM 5/26/2002]
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Re: blackwing to easy (figment)
be prepared to be possibly diappointed...unless you want to re-program things $$. I was running way too rich after the install. (dyno'ed ~500 miles after install)
Glad I kept the stock unit, it will be going back on...
Hope your experience is different:thumbup:
Glad I kept the stock unit, it will be going back on...
Hope your experience is different:thumbup:
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Re: blackwing to easy (WWK888)
How did you guys get the lower (towards the front) grommets on? I have a hard reaching down there (hood is in the way). Any tips? Thanks..
Bill
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Re: blackwing to easy (pewter99)
How did you guys get the lower (towards the front) grommets on? I have a hard reaching down there (hood is in the way). Any tips? Thanks..
Bill...yeah, do what I do...bend waaaaaay over to the point where you pull a muscle in your leg then you can reach.... :lol: :lol: ..no easy way that I know of
Bill...yeah, do what I do...bend waaaaaay over to the point where you pull a muscle in your leg then you can reach.... :lol: :lol: ..no easy way that I know of