Codes to help confirm that the Active Handling light is in fact likely due to the wheel/tire size.
active suspension message?
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Racer
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From: Baton Rouge Louisiana
active suspension message?
Im looking at a 01 z06, after the deal on the car I was buying, had issues. Like the other, this car is not local to me, so an inspection is not possible till/if I fly there.
This car looks fairly clean, and has a good bit of performance mods done to it, including a built engine with some high end parts.
Two things, ......
The says the AC stopped blowing cold recently. He's only had the car a few months, and said when he bought it, it was cold, ....but now its only slightly cool air. He says the compressor keeps running, but its not cooling. 105 degree weather means Id have to put it in the shop right away, ...and I don't know an ac guy.
Also, theres a message on the dash, for the active suspension. He says this is due to the car having slightly different sized tires than what came factory. Does this sound normal?
This car looks fairly clean, and has a good bit of performance mods done to it, including a built engine with some high end parts.
Two things, ......
The says the AC stopped blowing cold recently. He's only had the car a few months, and said when he bought it, it was cold, ....but now its only slightly cool air. He says the compressor keeps running, but its not cooling. 105 degree weather means Id have to put it in the shop right away, ...and I don't know an ac guy.
Also, theres a message on the dash, for the active suspension. He says this is due to the car having slightly different sized tires than what came factory. Does this sound normal?
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Im looking at a 01 z06, after the deal on the car I was buying, had issues. Like the other, this car is not local to me, so an inspection is not possible till/if I fly there.
This car looks fairly clean, and has a good bit of performance mods done to it, including a built engine with some high end parts.
Two things, ......
The says the AC stopped blowing cold recently. He's only had the car a few months, and said when he bought it, it was cold, ....but now its only slightly cool air. He says the compressor keeps running, but its not cooling. 105 degree weather means Id have to put it in the shop right away, ...and I don't know an ac guy.
Also, theres a message on the dash, for the active suspension. He says this is due to the car having slightly different sized tires than what came factory. Does this sound normal?
This car looks fairly clean, and has a good bit of performance mods done to it, including a built engine with some high end parts.
Two things, ......
The says the AC stopped blowing cold recently. He's only had the car a few months, and said when he bought it, it was cold, ....but now its only slightly cool air. He says the compressor keeps running, but its not cooling. 105 degree weather means Id have to put it in the shop right away, ...and I don't know an ac guy.
Also, theres a message on the dash, for the active suspension. He says this is due to the car having slightly different sized tires than what came factory. Does this sound normal?
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Racer
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From: Baton Rouge Louisiana
Thread Starter
Racer
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 252
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From: Baton Rouge Louisiana
Just talked to the seller again.
It displays "service active handling", ...and he says there's no other dtc's.
So just the tire size being slightly different would do that? One of the previous owners had a set of 19" hre's on it, and didn't have that issue.
Doing some searches on it, ..I found where a member here made this statement:
Opinions?
It displays "service active handling", ...and he says there's no other dtc's.
So just the tire size being slightly different would do that? One of the previous owners had a set of 19" hre's on it, and didn't have that issue.
Doing some searches on it, ..I found where a member here made this statement:
Active handling isn't affected by over size tires or changes where the rear diameter even goes smaller than the front diamter. Active Handling depends on the steering, yaw, lateral G and wheel speed sensors but doesn't care whether the front wheel is spinning slower than the rear.
Last edited by Na4now; Jul 2, 2012 at 07:01 PM.
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My opinion.....call it a day. There are plenty of good deals right now on well maintained C5's.
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Just talked to the seller again.
It displays "service active handling", ...and he says there's no other dtc's.
So just the tire size being slightly different would do that? One of the previous owners had a set of 19" hre's on it, and didn't have that issue.
Doing some searches on it, ..I found where a member here made this statement:
Opinions?
It displays "service active handling", ...and he says there's no other dtc's.
So just the tire size being slightly different would do that? One of the previous owners had a set of 19" hre's on it, and didn't have that issue.
Doing some searches on it, ..I found where a member here made this statement:
Opinions?
Active handling isn't affected by over size tires or changes where the rear diameter even goes smaller than the front diamter. Active Handling depends on the steering, yaw, lateral G and wheel speed sensors but doesn't care whether the front wheel is spinning slower than the rear.
That's just not correct. The rear tire overall diameter has to be larger than the front. I don't remember the stock difference, but it's close to one inch taller in the rear. If they are equal or rear smaller, you'll get warnings everytime you drive. Do as the others say and have him go into the DIC and pull all the codes, not just a warning displayed on the screen. Tell him to include H and C (history and current) codes also.
Last edited by 65GGvert; Jul 2, 2012 at 07:11 PM.
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Racer
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From: Baton Rouge Louisiana
I asked the seller to pull the codes, and this was his response:
"The PCM doesn't control the active handling, so it will not show up on a regular scan tool. IIRC its controlled by the BCM. I'll have to call the dealer tomorrow and see what it costs to pull the code."
He seems like a straight up guy, and the car fits just what I'm looking for. I'd just like to get this stuff figured out before I make a commitment.
"The PCM doesn't control the active handling, so it will not show up on a regular scan tool. IIRC its controlled by the BCM. I'll have to call the dealer tomorrow and see what it costs to pull the code."
He seems like a straight up guy, and the car fits just what I'm looking for. I'd just like to get this stuff figured out before I make a commitment.
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The codes can be pulled by anyone sitting in the car and pushing the buttons. You don't need a scan tool or a dealer. This guy is either non-informed or non-cooperative. In either case, I would look around for another car. Enough evasion for me.
Next car pull the codes yourself, here's how:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13412740306153
Next car pull the codes yourself, here's how:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13412740306153
Last edited by 65GGvert; Jul 2, 2012 at 08:07 PM.
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Racer
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Thanks for the link! Im glad I know about that, now. The owner hasn't had this car but for a few months, so I doubt he knew about that procedure.
This car is a really sought after one. z06, decent miles, built (documented) engine, good color combo, ect. And it's not so far away that I couldnt drive it back.
Im really want a clean c5 with a good bit of mods. Id never be happy with a stock car. Ive sunk tons of money in modifying cars in the past, ..and Id really like to get one that already has a bunch of work done.
The cars Im looking at are 500+hp cars, and all of them seem to have some sort of issues, ...at least ones in my price range (wanted to stay under $18k, now looking at spending $22k.)
On this car, Im waiting to see if the seller is going to have the ac fixed. I dont want to buy something that has to go in the shop, right away. He says he's going to have it looked at in the next couple days. Either way, I want to get this trouble code thing figured out.
This car is a really sought after one. z06, decent miles, built (documented) engine, good color combo, ect. And it's not so far away that I couldnt drive it back.
Im really want a clean c5 with a good bit of mods. Id never be happy with a stock car. Ive sunk tons of money in modifying cars in the past, ..and Id really like to get one that already has a bunch of work done.
The cars Im looking at are 500+hp cars, and all of them seem to have some sort of issues, ...at least ones in my price range (wanted to stay under $18k, now looking at spending $22k.)
On this car, Im waiting to see if the seller is going to have the ac fixed. I dont want to buy something that has to go in the shop, right away. He says he's going to have it looked at in the next couple days. Either way, I want to get this trouble code thing figured out.
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Racer
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From: Baton Rouge Louisiana
Got the codes!
Okay guys, ...I got a video of the dic procedure.
I do know that the current owner, did just have the ac controls below the radio, replaced.
10-pcm no codes
28-tcs C1214 H
28-tcs C1278 H
28-tcs C1287 H C
28-tcs C1288 H C
40-bcm U1096 H
58-sdm U1096 H
60-ipc no codes
80-radio U1096 H
99-hvac U1096 H
ao-ldcm U1096 H
a1-rdcM U1096 H
a6-scm no codes
bd-rfa U1064 H
no more codes
Is any of this something to be worried about? Remember, I was told that ONLY the "service active handling" message pops up on the dash, and this is only supposed to be do from having different sized tires on the z06 wheels.
Im really interested in this car. Any help with this is appreciated.
I do know that the current owner, did just have the ac controls below the radio, replaced.
10-pcm no codes
28-tcs C1214 H
28-tcs C1278 H
28-tcs C1287 H C
28-tcs C1288 H C
40-bcm U1096 H
58-sdm U1096 H
60-ipc no codes
80-radio U1096 H
99-hvac U1096 H
ao-ldcm U1096 H
a1-rdcM U1096 H
a6-scm no codes
bd-rfa U1064 H
no more codes
Is any of this something to be worried about? Remember, I was told that ONLY the "service active handling" message pops up on the dash, and this is only supposed to be do from having different sized tires on the z06 wheels.
Im really interested in this car. Any help with this is appreciated.
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St. Jude Donor '12
Okay guys, ...I got a video of the dic procedure.
I do know that the current owner, did just have the ac controls below the radio, replaced.
28-tcs C1214 H
28-tcs C1278 H
28-tcs C1287 H C
28-tcs C1288 H C
Is any of this something to be worried about? Remember, I was told that ONLY the "service active handling" message pops up on the dash, and this is only supposed to be do from having different sized tires on the z06 wheels.
Im really interested in this car. Any help with this is appreciated.
I do know that the current owner, did just have the ac controls below the radio, replaced.
28-tcs C1214 H
28-tcs C1278 H
28-tcs C1287 H C
28-tcs C1288 H C
Is any of this something to be worried about? Remember, I was told that ONLY the "service active handling" message pops up on the dash, and this is only supposed to be do from having different sized tires on the z06 wheels.
Im really interested in this car. Any help with this is appreciated.
Last edited by chaase; Jul 3, 2012 at 04:39 PM.
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Okay guys, ...I got a video of the dic procedure.
I do know that the current owner, did just have the ac controls below the radio, replaced.
10-pcm no codes
28-tcs C1214 H
28-tcs C1278 H
28-tcs C1287 H C
28-tcs C1288 H C
40-bcm U1096 H
58-sdm U1096 H
60-ipc no codes
80-radio U1096 H
99-hvac U1096 H
ao-ldcm U1096 H
a1-rdcM U1096 H
a6-scm no codes
bd-rfa U1064 H
no more codes
Is any of this something to be worried about? Remember, I was told that ONLY the "service active handling" message pops up on the dash, and this is only supposed to be do from having different sized tires on the z06 wheels.
Im really interested in this car. Any help with this is appreciated.
I do know that the current owner, did just have the ac controls below the radio, replaced.
10-pcm no codes
28-tcs C1214 H
28-tcs C1278 H
28-tcs C1287 H C
28-tcs C1288 H C
40-bcm U1096 H
58-sdm U1096 H
60-ipc no codes
80-radio U1096 H
99-hvac U1096 H
ao-ldcm U1096 H
a1-rdcM U1096 H
a6-scm no codes
bd-rfa U1064 H
no more codes
Is any of this something to be worried about? Remember, I was told that ONLY the "service active handling" message pops up on the dash, and this is only supposed to be do from having different sized tires on the z06 wheels.
Im really interested in this car. Any help with this is appreciated.
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Racer
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From: Baton Rouge Louisiana
another update.............
Turns out the ac was low on freon, and now blows cold like it should. Now, ...Im just wondering where it could be leaking from, because Id have to fix that. He said the ac tech said he couldnt find a leak, but it was half empty. ???
As for the steering sensor codes, ...he said the steering wheel is canted to the left, driving straight down the highway. From what Ive read, that can cause the c1287 and c 1288. Would an alignment fix that, possibly?
The EBCM code has me worried too. That can be an easy cheap fix, ...or a +$1k nightmare.
Sure seems like a LOT of c5's have a bunch of issues. I guess not the most reliable cars. Man, .,...my Supra, and my Lexus SC300's were rock solid reliable. I want a vette so bad, but now Im wondering if it's worth it. Even a previous owner of this car, said that maintenance would be expensive on it.
As for the steering sensor codes, ...he said the steering wheel is canted to the left, driving straight down the highway. From what Ive read, that can cause the c1287 and c 1288. Would an alignment fix that, possibly?
The EBCM code has me worried too. That can be an easy cheap fix, ...or a +$1k nightmare.
Sure seems like a LOT of c5's have a bunch of issues. I guess not the most reliable cars. Man, .,...my Supra, and my Lexus SC300's were rock solid reliable. I want a vette so bad, but now Im wondering if it's worth it. Even a previous owner of this car, said that maintenance would be expensive on it.
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Turns out the ac was low on freon, and now blows cold like it should. Now, ...Im just wondering where it could be leaking from, because Id have to fix that. He said the ac tech said he couldnt find a leak, but it was half empty. ???
As for the steering sensor codes, ...he said the steering wheel is canted to the left, driving straight down the highway. From what Ive read, that can cause the c1287 and c 1288. Would an alignment fix that, possibly?
The EBCM code has me worried too. That can be an easy cheap fix, ...or a +$1k nightmare.
Sure seems like a LOT of c5's have a bunch of issues. I guess not the most reliable cars. Man, .,...my Supra, and my Lexus SC300's were rock solid reliable. I want a vette so bad, but now Im wondering if it's worth it. Even a previous owner of this car, said that maintenance would be expensive on it.
As for the steering sensor codes, ...he said the steering wheel is canted to the left, driving straight down the highway. From what Ive read, that can cause the c1287 and c 1288. Would an alignment fix that, possibly?
The EBCM code has me worried too. That can be an easy cheap fix, ...or a +$1k nightmare.
Sure seems like a LOT of c5's have a bunch of issues. I guess not the most reliable cars. Man, .,...my Supra, and my Lexus SC300's were rock solid reliable. I want a vette so bad, but now Im wondering if it's worth it. Even a previous owner of this car, said that maintenance would be expensive on it.
Did the owner explain why he has not fixed any of the items listed, and more importantly, why he is unloading the car?
Team Owner
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Posts: 23,480
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From: East Meadow NY
St. Jude Donor '12
Turns out the ac was low on freon, and now blows cold like it should. Now, ...Im just wondering where it could be leaking from, because Id have to fix that. He said the ac tech said he couldnt find a leak, but it was half empty. ???
As for the steering sensor codes, ...he said the steering wheel is canted to the left, driving straight down the highway. From what Ive read, that can cause the c1287 and c 1288. Would an alignment fix that, possibly?
The EBCM code has me worried too. That can be an easy cheap fix, ...or a +$1k nightmare.
Sure seems like a LOT of c5's have a bunch of issues. I guess not the most reliable cars. Man, .,...my Supra, and my Lexus SC300's were rock solid reliable. I want a vette so bad, but now Im wondering if it's worth it. Even a previous owner of this car, said that maintenance would be expensive on it.
As for the steering sensor codes, ...he said the steering wheel is canted to the left, driving straight down the highway. From what Ive read, that can cause the c1287 and c 1288. Would an alignment fix that, possibly?
The EBCM code has me worried too. That can be an easy cheap fix, ...or a +$1k nightmare.
Sure seems like a LOT of c5's have a bunch of issues. I guess not the most reliable cars. Man, .,...my Supra, and my Lexus SC300's were rock solid reliable. I want a vette so bad, but now Im wondering if it's worth it. Even a previous owner of this car, said that maintenance would be expensive on it.
Team Owner
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Posts: 22,114
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From: Kannapolis NC
Of the many thousands made, very few post here when they have cars with no problems. I have a two 03's and a 98 with no problem of any kind. Don't base your decision on the problems you read here, it's a very small overall percentage of the total
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Racer
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From: Baton Rouge Louisiana
He says he's selling the car, because its too extreme, and doesnt have much room. It has a big cam, and its not real tame just cruising around.