mcleod rst/tick master problem
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Melting Slicks
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From: VERNON CT
mcleod rst/tick master problem
ive had my rst/tick installed for the past 2500 miles or so, its been flawless up until now. recently the clutch has been making a awful metal on metal screech when you slip it from a dead stop. it also seems like its shifting a little harder and now i thought i heard a slight grind downshifting to 2nd. does it sound like the master needs adjusting? how would i got about adjusting it? i had a shop install it (i hit myself every time for doing so) but i just did have time to do it myself so im clueless when it comes to adjusting it now.
im really hoping my clutch isn't shot.....
other then the screech when slipping the clutch makes no other noises whatsoever no chatter etc.
any help would be greatly appreciated. if i need to get a video i will gladly do so.
im really hoping my clutch isn't shot.....
other then the screech when slipping the clutch makes no other noises whatsoever no chatter etc.
any help would be greatly appreciated. if i need to get a video i will gladly do so.
Last edited by StealthFRC; Jul 18, 2012 at 04:56 PM.
Drifting
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From: Negley Ohio
When i got my rst installed, my tuner told me with only 46000 miles on the car its best if i just do not touch the master so i dident. My clutch is awesome. Hope you get your problem fixed bud. That is a really good clutch.
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The Tick "IS" a master cylinder. I would question why your installer said your master was "OK". If he really meant the slave, then you REALLY should have changed it when your clutch was installed.
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Melting Slicks
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From: VERNON CT
Sorry I meant if the tick needs adjusting. I really can't remember what was done with the slave but I would hope they replaced it. I'll have to call and see but I really don't think the slave is the cause.
Last edited by StealthFRC; Jul 19, 2012 at 01:44 AM.
Drifting
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Yep I put a new slave in it along with the pilot bearing and new apr bolts. It was absolutely unnecessary to replace my master cylinder with the mcload rst clutch.
Drifting
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ive had my rst/tick installed for the past 2500 miles or so, its been flawless up until now. recently the clutch has been making a awful metal on metal screech when you slip it from a dead stop. it also seems like its shifting a little harder and now i thought i heard a slight grind downshifting to 2nd. does it sound like the master needs adjusting? how would i got about adjusting it? i had a shop install it (i hit myself every time for doing so) but i just did have time to do it myself so im clueless when it comes to adjusting it now.
im really hoping my clutch isn't shot.....
other then the screech when slipping the clutch makes no other noises whatsoever no chatter etc.
any help would be greatly appreciated. if i need to get a video i will gladly do so.
im really hoping my clutch isn't shot.....
other then the screech when slipping the clutch makes no other noises whatsoever no chatter etc.
any help would be greatly appreciated. if i need to get a video i will gladly do so.
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Melting Slicks
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From: VERNON CT
ive emailed them this is what they sent
John,
"it's hard to say what the noise could be over a email. But just guessing the large bore tick master cylinder is over stroking the diaphragm, causing the diaphragm to hit the top disc during release which would make a loud metal sound. These clutches were intended for use with factory hydraulics. Try putting the factory master back in it and see if the noise goes away."
"without seeing the clutch it's really hard to give you a proper assessment. I would highly suggest sending the complete unit back to us for inspection. If we find something wrong at that time we can make the necessary fixes to your unit for proper operation."
i love the clutch so im hoping its a simple fix. im going to try flushing the fluid then maybe figure out how to adjust the tick. i really do not want to have to remove it and have to send it in for repair so im crossing my fingers lol.
when i had the clutch put it i had the rst clutch, billet steel flywheel and i had them "balanced" or matched i guess. i also had the tick installed with it since my stock unit was junk. as for the slave im still unsure so ill have to call the shop and see what they did as i can not recall.
John,
"it's hard to say what the noise could be over a email. But just guessing the large bore tick master cylinder is over stroking the diaphragm, causing the diaphragm to hit the top disc during release which would make a loud metal sound. These clutches were intended for use with factory hydraulics. Try putting the factory master back in it and see if the noise goes away."
"without seeing the clutch it's really hard to give you a proper assessment. I would highly suggest sending the complete unit back to us for inspection. If we find something wrong at that time we can make the necessary fixes to your unit for proper operation."
i love the clutch so im hoping its a simple fix. im going to try flushing the fluid then maybe figure out how to adjust the tick. i really do not want to have to remove it and have to send it in for repair so im crossing my fingers lol.
when i had the clutch put it i had the rst clutch, billet steel flywheel and i had them "balanced" or matched i guess. i also had the tick installed with it since my stock unit was junk. as for the slave im still unsure so ill have to call the shop and see what they did as i can not recall.
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Whether or not the shop replaced your slave should show up on your work order. When I replaced my slave with a new GM, I used a Centerforce TO bearing on the stock slave. It's a beefier unit, but kind of expensive, for just a TOB.
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Melting Slicks
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From: VERNON CT
its starting to get pretty bad now. its getting very difficult to shift/downshift. also makes a ton of noise trying to slip it to get rolling... also screeches downshifting.
the car is going to the shop on monday for a diff upgrade, ill most likely have them remove the clutch at the same time for inspection. hopefully it something simple as the clutch has very little use.
the car is going to the shop on monday for a diff upgrade, ill most likely have them remove the clutch at the same time for inspection. hopefully it something simple as the clutch has very little use.
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its starting to get pretty bad now. its getting very difficult to shift/downshift. also makes a ton of noise trying to slip it to get rolling... also screeches downshifting.
the car is going to the shop on monday for a diff upgrade, ill most likely have them remove the clutch at the same time for inspection. hopefully it something simple as the clutch has very little use.
the car is going to the shop on monday for a diff upgrade, ill most likely have them remove the clutch at the same time for inspection. hopefully it something simple as the clutch has very little use.
If there was not a new slave t/out bearing installed at that time would be totally insane.
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Melting Slicks
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From: VERNON CT
there was a new TOB im just not sure about the slave.
i ordered all the parts for the install but i never ordered a slave. im unsure if the installer did, thats why im not positive. its been a few months and i can not remember where i put the invoice. its a easy as making a phone call.
just made the call. invoice shows no new slave.... but he said he thinks he put one in but didnt charge for it. cant be positive.
he also said from what im describing it could be a messed up torque tube. guess we will find out when it goes back in the shop for gears.
i ordered all the parts for the install but i never ordered a slave. im unsure if the installer did, thats why im not positive. its been a few months and i can not remember where i put the invoice. its a easy as making a phone call.
just made the call. invoice shows no new slave.... but he said he thinks he put one in but didnt charge for it. cant be positive.
he also said from what im describing it could be a messed up torque tube. guess we will find out when it goes back in the shop for gears.
Last edited by StealthFRC; Jul 20, 2012 at 11:45 AM.
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Let me see.
Are you using the same shop that recently installed your clutch set up?
Between them & you, neither can find out from previous paper work, bill of sales,recollection, etc if there was a new slave/throw out bearing, installed at the same time clutch was recently replaced?
Was there a new pilot bearing installed at the time?
Of course no one would happen to know that while the drive line was completely out of the car that the Torque tube bushings/bearings were checked out.
Are you using the same shop that recently installed your clutch set up?
Between them & you, neither can find out from previous paper work, bill of sales,recollection, etc if there was a new slave/throw out bearing, installed at the same time clutch was recently replaced?
Was there a new pilot bearing installed at the time?
Of course no one would happen to know that while the drive line was completely out of the car that the Torque tube bushings/bearings were checked out.
Drifting
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ive emailed them this is what they sent
John,
"it's hard to say what the noise could be over a email. But just guessing the large bore tick master cylinder is over stroking the diaphragm, causing the diaphragm to hit the top disc during release which would make a loud metal sound. These clutches were intended for use with factory hydraulics. Try putting the factory master back in it and see if the noise goes away."
"without seeing the clutch it's really hard to give you a proper assessment. I would highly suggest sending the complete unit back to us for inspection. If we find something wrong at that time we can make the necessary fixes to your unit for proper operation."
i love the clutch so im hoping its a simple fix. im going to try flushing the fluid then maybe figure out how to adjust the tick. i really do not want to have to remove it and have to send it in for repair so im crossing my fingers lol.
when i had the clutch put it i had the rst clutch, billet steel flywheel and i had them "balanced" or matched i guess. i also had the tick installed with it since my stock unit was junk. as for the slave im still unsure so ill have to call the shop and see what they did as i can not recall.
John,
"it's hard to say what the noise could be over a email. But just guessing the large bore tick master cylinder is over stroking the diaphragm, causing the diaphragm to hit the top disc during release which would make a loud metal sound. These clutches were intended for use with factory hydraulics. Try putting the factory master back in it and see if the noise goes away."
"without seeing the clutch it's really hard to give you a proper assessment. I would highly suggest sending the complete unit back to us for inspection. If we find something wrong at that time we can make the necessary fixes to your unit for proper operation."
i love the clutch so im hoping its a simple fix. im going to try flushing the fluid then maybe figure out how to adjust the tick. i really do not want to have to remove it and have to send it in for repair so im crossing my fingers lol.
when i had the clutch put it i had the rst clutch, billet steel flywheel and i had them "balanced" or matched i guess. i also had the tick installed with it since my stock unit was junk. as for the slave im still unsure so ill have to call the shop and see what they did as i can not recall.
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Melting Slicks
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From: VERNON CT
Let me see.
Are you using the same shop that recently installed your clutch set up?
Between them & you, neither can find out from previous paper work, bill of sales,recollection, etc if there was a new slave/throw out bearing, installed at the same time clutch was recently replaced?
Was there a new pilot bearing installed at the time?
Of course no one would happen to know that while the drive line was completely out of the car that the Torque tube bushings/bearings were checked out.
Are you using the same shop that recently installed your clutch set up?
Between them & you, neither can find out from previous paper work, bill of sales,recollection, etc if there was a new slave/throw out bearing, installed at the same time clutch was recently replaced?
Was there a new pilot bearing installed at the time?
Of course no one would happen to know that while the drive line was completely out of the car that the Torque tube bushings/bearings were checked out.
im having a different shop working on it right now. the first shop was over 3hrs away thus why i have not used them since. they do good work so i was happy with them, i just cant justify a 3hr drive. the shop that did the clutch install did have the work order from the clutch install. he said it did not have a new slave listed but with all installs he will replace the part so he was unsure why... either way im going to have the current shop check and see, if it is the old one ill have them replace it to prevent further headaches.
the car is pulled apart. it ended up being the rubber couplers on the drive shaft. they were complete shredded, there amazed the car even drove... while there in there im going to have them look at the slave and everything else to prevent any problems down the road.
Last edited by StealthFRC; Jul 25, 2012 at 11:37 PM.