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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 11:26 PM
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Yes it sure did make me happy. As for new heads, I think that is the logical next large step but damn they aren't cheap!!!!

Any other smaller things that I may be overlooking?
Do some shopping around. You may be very pleasantly surprised. There's a lot of competition in the cylinder head world these days and lot's of good, cost effective, choices.
Talk to Doc or Jeff about what they might recommend, like RHS Pro-Elite heads for example or some PRC heads from Texas Speed. They'll give you sound advice.
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Do some shopping around. You may be very pleasantly surprised. There's a lot of competition in the cylinder head world these days and lot's of good, cost effective, choices.
Talk to Doc or Jeff about what they might recommend, like RHS Pro-Elite heads for example or some PRC heads from Texas Speed. They'll give you sound advice.
Obviously there are lots of variables but what do you think the approximate power add would be for upgrading the heads? Just rough ballpark estimate?
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Obviously there are lots of variables but what do you think the approximate power add would be for upgrading the heads? Just rough ballpark estimate?
Depends on the particular choice, but all things being equal (same cam, etc), I'd estimate anywhere from 20 to 30 range, maybe a tad more with Doc maximizing your tune. Since you said you have a FAST 102 intake manifold, I'm assuming you already have an LS2 (90mm) throttle body correct? Has it been ported already? If not, I'd recommend Pete Incaudo at VMax Motorsports there in Florida if you choose to do so. He's an expert at TB porting and his prices are reasonable. How about your MAF? Did you also upgrade to the later (larger) Z06 style factory MAF as well?

Good heads, along with refining your tune, will give you the biggest gain(s).

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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 01:56 PM
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Depends on the particular choice, but all things being equal (same cam, etc), I'd estimate anywhere from 20 to 30 range, maybe a tad more with Doc maximizing your tune. Since you said you have a FAST 102 intake manifold, I'm assuming you already have an LS2 (90mm) throttle body correct? Has it been ported already? If not, I'd recommend Pete Incaudo at VMax Motorsports there in Florida if you choose to do so. He's an expert at TB porting and his prices are reasonable. How about your MAF? Did you also upgrade to the later (larger) Z06 style factory MAF as well?

Good heads, along with refining your tune, will give you the biggest gain(s).

I haven't had the TB ported. I will contact Pete. What kind of gain do you think that is worth. I also haven't upgraded the MAF. Those two mods may add some throttle response when couple with the FAST, eh? That's good and probably more important to me than added power. But would those mods add any power to speak of? Just trying to gauge if there's decent value in it for the cost.
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I haven't had the TB ported. I will contact Pete. What kind of gain do you think that is worth. I also haven't upgraded the MAF. Those two mods may add some throttle response when couple with the FAST, eh? That's good and probably more important to me than added power. But would those mods add any power to speak of? Just trying to gauge if there's decent value in it for the cost.
Porting your TB and adding a larger sized MAF will require Doc to tweak on your tune some more, since airflow velocity at idle/low rpm tends to drop (affecting throttle response) when you go to a larger size(s). The larger amount (quantity) of air does benefit you though throughout the mid and upper rpm range and allow for more power at WOT. That's why a good tune is invaluable so your throttle response doesn't suffer in the process.

These two things combined with the fine tuning I would say would give you 5-12hp (~). Sit down with Doc and discuss what your goals are; he's helped many folks just like yourself with the very same, or similar, powertrain set-up and as you know, his tuning expertise with EFI-Live (it's what he uses) will keep a smile on your face.

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Instead of guessing why don't you take your vette to the drags
and have a good time. Then you will really know.
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Instead of guessing why don't you take your vette to the drags
and have a good time. Then you will really know.
I think he's just trying to get a basis for cost/benefit purposes before making any final decisions on a nice, street-driven convertible. I don't blame him. More people should.

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Originally Posted by JaxEagle
Yes, it's 1 7/8 and 2.5 - I'm nearly certain but I'll check again.
So what did you come up with? Do you have these brand new 1 7/8 XS Power headers on your car? Where did you order them from?
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by LoneStarFRC
Porting your TB and adding a larger sized MAF will require Doc to tweak on your tune some more, since airflow velocity at idle/low rpm tends to drop (affecting throttle response) when you go to a larger size(s). The larger amount (quantity) of air does benefit you though throughout the mid and upper rpm range and allow for more power at WOT. That's why a good tune is invaluable so your throttle response doesn't suffer in the process.

These two things combined with the fine tuning I would say would give you 5-12hp (~). Sit down with Doc and discuss what your goals are; he's helped many folks just like yourself with the very same, or similar, powertrain set-up and as you know, his tuning expertise with EFI-Live (it's what he uses) will keep a smile on your face.

I think it makes sense for my setup however the occasions I have for WOT are far too few...
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I think he's just trying to get a basis for cost/benefit purposes before making any final decisions on a nice, street-driven convertible. I don't blame him. More people should.

First, that is correct. I was simply trying to determine if my numbers were average or above or below for the given upgrades.

Regarding the track, I may well do that soon but I prefer the curves to the straights. They say you shouldn't take anything to the track that you can't afford to break. Well, I can't afford to break it. Then again, it'd be less risk to go do a couple passes on the drive straight track and I'm sure it'd be good fun too.
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So what did you come up with? Do you have these brand new 1 7/8 XS Power headers on your car? Where did you order them from?
Yes, they were purchased directly from XS and installed by Loud Pedal in Tempe. I didn't do the install, it was done by the previous owner. I do have an email from XS Power confirming dimensions if you'd like me to forward it to you.
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Yes, they were purchased directly from XS and installed by Loud Pedal in Tempe. I didn't do the install, it was done by the previous owner. I do have an email from XS Power confirming dimensions if you'd like me to forward it to you.
Well, there will be a lot of happy people out there. Many have been happy with XS Power, but complained they were only made in 1 3/4.
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I think it makes sense for my setup however the occasions I have for WOT are far too few...
Just remember too that the hp numbers you saw on your dyno pull are peak numbers, meaning WOT at high rpm so that's why I, and many others as well, tend to use that as a yard-stick of sorts for judging upgrades. Of course it goes without saying that whatever gains you see at WOT in the upper rpm range generally tends to translate to increases all across the board at the lower rpms as well, where 90% or more of your driving typically takes place, and for the most part it's the torque increases that you enjoy the most at the lower rpm ranges on the street day-to-day.

Btw, I think your numbers appear to be somewhat higher than average based on your limited amount of mods thus far.
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Question on the headers, I only see there race headers for C6's and they dont mention primary length. Do you have a link or part number for the headers? Im currently looking for 1 7/8 headers for my LS3 swap. Thnx.
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I do have an email from XS Power confirming dimensions if you'd like me to forward it to you.
Yes, please do.

thanks....
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Wow! Very nice results! Great combo and work well done!!

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Wow! Very nice results! Great combo and work well done!!

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Lucky and Natie,

I don't have the part number for the 1 7/8 primaries but I have an email confirmation from XS Power. Perhaps emailing them could get you the info you want. I will forward the email if you want it and I have your address. Otherwise, their email address is xs-power@ssautochrome.com
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