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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 06:52 PM
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Default Does traction control shut off throttle?

One of my underpriveledged friends (I won't mention any names, but he's kind of a loser ;) ) thinks that traction controls works via the cars brakes.....I say the car pulls the throttle when it starts slipping.......anyone know the answer?
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 06:55 PM
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Default Re: Does traction control shut off throttle? (OliverM5)

I will read my service manual tonight and get the whole scoop and repost to confirm but I BELIEVE:

TC works by applying brakes to a particular (or more if necessary) wheels.

I KNOW that if the clutch skips the motor can radically pull timing.

Tell your underprivileged friend that he's quite a sport to even be friends with a guy like you!

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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 06:55 PM
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Default Re: Does traction control shut off throttle? (OliverM5)

It cuts engine power.

That's what it feels like anyways. ;)

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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 06:57 PM
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Ed,
I think you got TC mixed up with active handling.

AH works with the breaks, TC works by cutting engine power.
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 06:59 PM
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2000,

Is that so? Really? I'm not being a smart-butt, but could you document this?
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 07:28 PM
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Default Re: Does traction control shut off throttle? (2000^C5)

AH works with the breaks, TC works by cutting engine power.
That's how I always understood it. When I forget to turn off my TC, I can really feel the power drop off, especially when I shift to second.


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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 07:30 PM
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2000,

Is that so? Really? I'm not being a smart-butt, but could you document this?
I will look into it, hopefully some more people will back me up on this...
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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Default Re: Does traction control shut off throttle? (OliverM5)

TC cuts engine power. Ever try spinning your wheels on ice? Active handling applies the brakes selectively to keep the car tracking straight. Don't ask me about the power loss between shifts. Would like a certain and knowledgeable person to explain. No guessing allowed.
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 09:32 PM
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Default Re: Does traction control shut off throttle? (jfpilla)

TC cuts engine power. Ever try spinning your wheels on ice? Active handling applies the brakes selectively to keep the car tracking straight. Don't ask me about the power loss between shifts. Would like a certain and knowledgeable person to explain. No guessing allowed.


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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 09:43 PM
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I drove a '02 Camaro SS and they only have traction control, no active handling. Upon trying to leave a stop light heavy, the next thing I noticed was the terrible smell of the brake pads which were working against me. The Camaro SS uses brakes only for traction control. The C5 is smarter and pulls power.

I have a string tied around my finger to remind me to hold down my button for 5 seconds every time I get in. I will only drive in competitive mode, once I forgot against a Cobra and it was just plain embarrassing! :(
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 10:21 PM
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I believe that TC uses a combination of brakes and reduced throttle to keep the back tires in line. Depends on the severity of the traction loss.
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 10:43 PM
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The wheels look great with black. :flag
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 10:45 PM
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Default Re: Does traction control shut off throttle? (2k2C5)

2k
Your experiencing TC and AH working at once.


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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 11:28 PM
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Default Re: Does traction control shut off throttle? (jfpilla)

Folks,

If you're going to make these claims I need your source documented.

I reviewed two of the three volumes <all I've got> and the "updates" book and I couldn't find the answer to the question....
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 11:32 PM
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Default Re: Does traction control shut off throttle? (OliverM5)

Traction Control on the C5 works by retarding the throttle when rear wheel spin is detected via the wheel sensors.

If you've ever had it kick in, you know how it feels. You just sit there (it seems like forever), waiting for the computer to give you back control of the throttle. It can be really exciting when you've punched it to get out into traffic and the computer chops the throttle.

Active Handling works by selectively applying the brakes at each wheel to control yaw (spin) and keep the car moving in the direction the computer thinks you want to go.

Competition Mode allows you to turn off Traction Control while keeping Active Handling active.

Our TracActive Controller does this for you automatically when you start the car!

Mike :flag
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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 11:54 PM
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Default Re: Does traction control shut off throttle? (Mike Schriber)

Well there you have it Oliver! Tell your friend that he truly is underprivileged!

But remember... If you can't remember to turn OFF AH/TC before you use your nitrous - then you shouldn't be spraying in the first place! :seeya
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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 12:12 AM
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Default Re: Does traction control shut off throttle? (EdwardETraylorIII)

TC Cuts cyliners AH applies brakes my documentation is I drive and build them for a (modest) living.Dave S.
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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 12:29 AM
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Default Re: Does traction control shut off throttle? (EdwardETraylorIII)

I've got your documentation right here.

that is: pg. 19 y2k C5 sale brochure :lol: :smash:


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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 02:01 AM
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Default Re: Does traction control shut off throttle? (Mike Schriber)

Traction Control on the C5 works by retarding the throttle when rear wheel spin is detected via the wheel sensors.

If you've ever had it kick in, you know how it feels. You just sit there (it seems like forever), waiting for the computer to give you back control of the throttle. It can be really exciting when you've punched it to get out into traffic and the computer chops the throttle.

Active Handling works by selectively applying the brakes at each wheel to control yaw (spin) and keep the car moving in the direction the computer thinks you want to go.

Competition Mode allows you to turn off Traction Control while keeping Active Handling active.

Our TracActive Controller does this for you automatically when you start the car!

Mike :flag
Here is my understanding:

Traction control will cut the throttle and use the rear brakes to slow the faster dirve wheel. It is normally triggered by the detection of a speed differential between the wheels past a pre set value.

Active handling adds a yaw sensor and will also limit the throttle while braking any of the 4 wheels.

Competetive handling removes the the throttle limitation and wheel slip detection while still using yaw information to activate individual brakes.
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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 03:51 AM
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Default Re: Does traction control shut off throttle? (Richin Chicago)

Close. Traction Control does not use the brakes, and Active Handling does not chop the throttle.

Mike :flag
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