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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 11:52 PM
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I'm getting ready to do my top end pretty soon, and I'm just gathering parts. I heard somewhere that you should stud your exhaust manifold if you're gonna take them off. What's the reasoning, does it just make it easier to get them back on? I can imagine keeping the gaskets in place when the motor is still in the car would be tricky.
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 01:15 AM
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It would defiantly make things safer for the heads if the exhaust was coming on and off allot. Wouldn't have to worry about the aluminum threads anymore.
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 08:09 AM
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I found that you can't get headers (at least the two different sets I have had on my car) into place with all the studs in the head. I usually have to use one or two studs to hold the gasket, put header in place, then install the studs with the header in place. They do have an allen head in the stud so you can use a small socket and finger ratchet to install, but I don't believe you can install all the studs, then gasket then get the head in place as there is not enough room.
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Heads are Aluminum and the studs/bolts are steel, two different metals with the heads being softer, they can pull out when tightening and screw up your threads causing you to throw a fit, be angry and then get it fixed again.
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So for anyone who has been there, is it better to install studs, or leave the bolts? If you can't get the manifold in place with all the studs in, then I don't even see the point.
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I would just reuse the bolts. They have a good amount of thread locker on them.
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So for anyone who has been there, is it better to install studs, or leave the bolts? If you can't get the manifold in place with all the studs in, then I don't even see the point.
Couple of points. First, they will still allow you to hang the header, but you could in fact cut the head off of a couple of cheap bolts to do this then remove them and install the actual bolts once the header is in place with the remainder of the actual bolts you are using. (I did this recently with my daughter's Jeep transmission pan that is sealed with RTV. The studs allowed me to put the pan in place without it sliding around and messing up the RTV bead.) Second, they fully engage the aluminum threads during the tightening sequence.

Whatever you decide, don't use a wrench until the bolts/studs are hand threaded several turns. A lot of guys have cross threaded, which is easy to do unless you have five hands to hold the gasket, bolt, header and then align it all.
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I've had the headers off a C5 many many times. Never had an issue reusing the stock bolts. I think if anything the studs would get in the way of some jobs.
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Thanks for the input guys. vettenuts I like your idea of just studding the ones that won't be in the way to help ease the install, then taking them out and putting bolts back in. I wish I could remember where I read that you should stud them.
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