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Old Dec 15, 2012 | 10:44 PM
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Default The no-start/won't start thread - your fix

WHAT RESOLVED THE ISSUE FOR YOU?

I'll 'start' with mine...

2003 A4 Vert
at 8K miles
Turn key to start and zero. Everything else worked.
Issue was Solenoid

I suspected a hung-up bad contact solenoid from reading Tech. I jacked the car up in the garage and I hit it with a piece of wood while the wife turned the key to start. Started right up. I brushed it off to the car sitting idle over the years. When it happened in a store parking lot a second time I had to round up someone to turn the key while I crawled under as far as I could and hit the solenoid again and once more it started right away. No fun doing this to a Vette in public although I knew the location where to hit it.

Wasn't going to have that happen a third time and got a brand new starter/solenoid. Labor was $120 putting it on. Was not till months later I found a source (per CF) for a brand new solenoid in TX: Houston Warehouse (Lou) 1-800-392-3332. Cost an unbelievable $11.75 + 9.95 shipping for $21.70 total. Made in China (like yours probably). 4mm deep socket takes off the old solenoid from starter. That's lots cheaper than a complete new starter/solenoid although CarQuest was a savior at the time. U might explore the possibility of changing out the solenoid at the starter while on the car. It's a slip on fit onto a C clamp from the starter. I don't recall the access except that I had LG long tube headers in the way.

Tip: before you buy any starter you may want to explore what the experts have to say about them and Solenoids. One is Bill Curlee. 8Vette7 is another on to listen to et al.
Just hit the SEARCH button, click Advance Search, enter starter solenoid, by Bill Curlee, in C5 Tech.
A small sample of what you will find...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=3738430
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=3446697 see post #3 on there
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=3590281 starter bolt issue
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=3423940 see post #2 on there
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=3535862 C6 but related - cost of a starter
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1846342 troubleshooting C5 no-start issues



important disclaimer in post #7

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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 01:53 PM
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I had the same problem. Would turn key and no noise or start randomly with no coorelation to heat or amount of time. Sometimes it would take one minutes to start others ten. Changed starter and issue went away.

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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 04:09 PM
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Same here,replaced the solenoid and never had that occur again!
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 09:49 PM
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2001 convertible, A4, 34,000 miles--car would start perfectly, then you could shut it down and it would not even crank. Did the Bill Curlee diagnostic procedures eliminated the started, battery, TDR relay as problems. Took the ignition switch out and cleaned it up per Mr. Curlee's procedure. Success so far! Now have 40000 miles on it.
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 09:58 PM
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Same as above but I wired in the necessary resistors to bypass the ignition security. Total cost was $5 and a half hour of my time.
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Old Dec 17, 2012 | 07:50 AM
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Instead of creating a thread with 200 replies on "why my engine did not start", wouldn't it be more useful, to have a thread on a methodical troubleshooting procedure, that would eliminate all possibilities? Just wondering.
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Old Dec 17, 2012 | 12:26 PM
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Default Very constructive point U got

Originally Posted by 1999_TRC
Instead of creating a thread with 200 replies on "why my engine did not start", wouldn't it be more useful, to have a thread on a methodical troubleshooting procedure, that would eliminate all possibilities? Just wondering.


Your suggestion would certainly benefit members who will experience these issues. Why not U follow-up and start such a thread, although you may be re-inventing the wheel.

^ ^ ^ 1999_TRC NEVER DID but here is the troubleshooting guide > > > http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1846342




Disclaimer, or caution to others if U will - Just because my resolve was the solenoid, that does not mean a person reading this thread should rush out and throw money & parts into their car without proper diagnostic. AND DO SECURE YOUR CAR PROPERLY BEFORE YOU GET UNDER IT.

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Mine did that the other day had to tap it to start now I know I just need the solenoid...

My no start issues
Year of your Vette (any year/generation will be accepted) 01 coupe
Transmission-6spd
Mileage (estimated)-91k

Symtoms-Car died while cruising in 6th gear lost all power code was CPK(crank position sensor/circuit)AND

WHAT RESOLVED THE ISSUE FOR YOU?
Headers melted the cps wire through. Had to redo the wiring from the harness to the sensor. Car fired up
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1999 coupe
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Symptom: car would randomly shut off; certain electrical loads lost power simultaneously. Intermittent issue.

Cause: IPEC Fuse #47 was loose. A previous owner had installed a fuse tap for some unknown reason. It caused the fuse "socket" to lose tension; this caused intermittent disruptions of power through the circuit.

Solution: I took two fuse taps, cut off the excess and put them over the blades of a new fuse and installed. Perhaps not the best way to fix it but I had been plagued by this problem for over a year and wasn't about to take the chance on having everything shut off doing 70mph on the highway (again).
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I replaced the ign switch to no avail. Replaced solenoid and starter and no more problems. That may not always be the solution.
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Originally Posted by The Rabbi
I replaced the ign switch to no avail. Replaced solenoid and starter and no more problems. That may not always be the solution.
why did you replace it, what was the issue..may wanna look at post 1 and follow that formula like post 9 and 10
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[QUOTE=Chicago1;1582594011]why did you replace it, what was the issue..may wanna look at post 1 and follow that formula like post 9 and 10[/QUO

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START PROBLEM SOLVED-BAD SOLENOID
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Originally Posted by 6GenVettes
bump
What does 'bump' mean?
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moving thread to the top of the list with a...bump.
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Default C6 starter talk but related

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=3541529 No-start diagnosis

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=3535862 Cost of a starter (mentioned earlier)

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BUMP = Mechanically Aggatate, Rap with a rubber mallet, hit it with a cressent wrench.

I taped up a 20"long piece of rebar with electrical tape, snaked the bar down between the header primarys and gave her a BUMP.

Heres the TRUTH TABLE for starting issues. The Theft deterrent relay is the heart of the circuit. You have a CONTROL SIDE of the relay and a high current (60 amp) 12 VDC side of the relay that powered the solenoid. When all the safety and securits are good, the BCM grounds the yellow/black wire and the relay can operate when you crank the engine bu turning the ignition switch to START.


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also had a solenoid fail, just bought a new delco starter
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