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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 11:39 AM
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I have just finished to install my Bixenon Headlight Kit and what a bad surprise after the first test. (Low and high beam are working correctly, even in bixenon mode.)
When I open the driver's door, the chime comes then all lights are off. So the "system" sees a light "ON" !!!
If I disconnect the plug on the headlamp door control module the chimes stops.
When I select the parklamp position, both headlamps go up but low beam are off. Low beam comes in Low beam position on the headlamp switch.
When I switch off the parklamp, the motors start to lower the headlamps and stop almost immediately.
I can hear a 'bzzzzz' in the Headlamp door control module when all is off, whatever the position of headlamps are.
I've also check the voltage on both grey plug just above the motors.
Blue, Light Blue, Green and light green have 12V , yellow and tan have 8.5V (headlamp switch on OFF position), so If I look the electrical diagram, there is a 12V on both side of the motor !!!!!
On 5 ways module connector (C1), White/Orange/green/Black/Orange, there's 12V on orange x2 (regarding the diagram it is OK F3 and F4 fusebox underhood) and on green (light switch on Off) 12V as well.
I have tried with low and high beams bulbs disconnected, headlamp goes up but no down...
So please if you have any idea to help me do not hesitate to advise me.
Thanks a lot.

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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 05:38 AM
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I have disconnected the RH headlamp ballast and Xenon bulb and put back my old H4 bulb in the low beam plug > The chimes shut off immediately

I turned the main switch to the park lamp position and HDLP do not raise > OK
In low beam postion they raise correctly and when I turn back to off they lower completely. OK
So now I have to find why with two ballasts the issue comes.
Any idea guys ?
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 08:43 PM
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I installed the HID fog lights and ballasts in my 03 and the buckets would sometimes come up when I turned the light switch to just the parking lamps. I uninstalled them and all is again well. I think it has something to do with the BCM.
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hello,
ok thanks for your feedback but I don't want to give up so quickly.

With xenon kit connected: for the very first test Headlamp switch on parklamp > Parklamp = on, HDLP closed
Headlamp switch in low beam position > Parklamp = on, HDLP raised and low beam bulb = on
Headlamp switch in high beam potision > Parklamp = on, HDLP raised, low & high beam = on

Headlamp switch back to low beam position > Parklamp = on, HDLP raised and low beam = on
Headlamp switch back to parklamp position > Parklamp =on, HDLP raised, low beam = Off
Headlamp switch back to Off position > Parklamp = Off, HDLP start to lower and stop immediately, driver's door open chime = on (means light are on )

The only way to lower both the HDLP is to disconnect one ballast and to connect H4 bulb in the stock grey plug, chime Off, HLDP lower to close position

After this complete test, if I plug in again the ballast, the cycle restarts

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The headlights not going down is a common problem ( really not so much of a "problem" as an inconvienence) after the instaltion of HID's.
The electrical resistance of HID bulbs is considerably less that of the standard bulbs. The computer provides a continuous small current to the headlights (even when they are "shut off") and senses the power dissipated thru the headlights. When the light switch is in the "low beam off" position, because of the lower than "normal" low beam HID resistance, the computer does not sense that a sufficient amount of power is being dissipated and consequently does not realize that the headlights are up.
If you put the headlight switch in the "high beam off" position that small current now flows thru all 4 bulbs and the combined resistance of all the bulbs is enough to alert the computer that the headlights are up, and it closes them.
There's 2 solutions to the problem:
1. several supporting members sell an in line resistor that you can insert into the headlight circuit and the added resistance will "fool"the computer and close the lights "normally"
2. before shutting you lights off, turn your high beams on - the headlights will go down.
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Originally Posted by 99 vett babycar
The headlights not going down is a common problem ( really not so much of a "problem" as an inconvienence) after the instaltion of HID's.
The electrical resistance of HID bulbs is considerably less that of the standard bulbs. The computer provides a continuous small current to the headlights (even when they are "shut off") and senses the power dissipated thru the headlights. When the light switch is in the "low beam off" position, because of the lower than "normal" low beam HID resistance, the computer does not sense that a sufficient amount of power is being dissipated and consequently does not realize that the headlights are up.
If you put the headlight switch in the "high beam off" position that small current now flows thru all 4 bulbs and the combined resistance of all the bulbs is enough to alert the computer that the headlights are up, and it closes them.
There's 2 solutions to the problem:
1. several supporting members sell an in line resistor that you can insert into the headlight circuit and the added resistance will "fool"the computer and close the lights "normally"
2. before shutting you lights off, turn your high beams on - the headlights will go down.
What a clear information. Thanks you so much.
I'm going to test that this evening >>>With headlight energized, HDLP close. This is a temporary solution, I really want to fix this issue
Do you have a link for this aditional resistor ? (My kit is a 55W not a 35W)

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sorry I do not - I'm too cheap to buy it and don't mind putting the hi beams on to shut down. I'm sure one of the other members will give you a link or you could try search for "HID resistor".
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I've Just received and installed the new ballasts and no chance for me :'(
When I turn off the switch light, lowbeam and parklamps are off, switch in lowbeam position, both of doors are still open and the chime comes. As soon as I push the switch in highbeam position (all lights not illuminated), the doors are closing...With halogen all is correct so for me the lighting switch works correctly. The only positive point, these ballast are completely silent.
All new ideas are welcome.
99 Vett Babycar: Computer = BCM?

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Problem solved
Actually the ballasts were the problem, I bought another pair, better quality, admittedly more expensive than the ones provide in the kit but now all work perfectly.

Here is the "good one" http://www.france-xenon.com/fr/piece...811500344.html

Thanks for your help anyway

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