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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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My corvette's outer tie rod just worn out. after i brought it to the shop, they told me i might have to change rack and pinion. but the reason i brought it in was coz i saw some white smoke coming out from my front wheels. and those smells oil. i am not sure what that was. the only code i am getting is C0584, and i know the code is for short circuit on suspension. i guess it might be the rack and pinion leak. but i have never seen any liquid residue on the floor, even i left it over the weekend on the floor.
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Please clarify when you saw this "smoke". Like after a drive? Was it coming out from behind the wheel and exiting between the tire and the fender?

Why did the shop say the rack might need to be changed?
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Old Jun 22, 2013 | 11:49 AM
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Please clarify when you saw this "smoke". Like after a drive? Was it coming out from behind the wheel and exiting between the tire and the fender?

Why did the shop say the rack might need to be changed?
when i stop at the stop sigh or the light, i can see some very faint and thin white smoke coming out from the side of the hood, on top of the wheels. between the tire and fender. i am living in philly, it's not that hot these days. it's about 85 or so.
i brought it to the shop, i drove around the block, to show the mechanic about the worn tie rods. seemingly the power steer is not very responsive at that point ( i guess it might coz the front tie rod is too lose). so the mechanic to me, that is the rack and pinion might be leaking too.
thank you very much for your input!

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The white "smoke" could be a coolant leak. Check you coolant level so we can rule that in or out. Suggest on your next drive you pull over and open the hood to see if you can further identify what may be causing it.

Please confirm, the smoke is coming from BOTH front tires?
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dadaroo
The white "smoke" could be a coolant leak. Check you coolant level so we can rule that in or out. Suggest on your next drive you pull over and open the hood to see if you can further identify what may be causing it.

Please confirm, the smoke is coming from BOTH front tires?
well, finally i decided to bring the car to chevy dealer. so chevy told me, it was my radiator tube is leaking. and my rack and pinion was fine. i guess the mechanic from the previous shop mistaken the radiator tube leak as the rack and pinion leak.
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Suggest you stay away from that "mechanic". I figured it was coolant to have it exit both sides of the car.
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Suggest you stay away from that "mechanic". I figured it was coolant to have it exit both sides of the car.
For a change, the "stealership" got it right. Afraid to ask what they charged him for that diagnosis.
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by helios_1215
coz i saw some white smoke coming out from my front wheels.
Then, again, maybe you just elected a Pope!

Seriously, glad you got it worked out. This is one of those little bits of info one saves for later. Thanks.

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For a change, the "stealership" got it right. Afraid to ask what they charged him for that diagnosis.
Believe or not I actually saved some money. I was going to pay 1600 to solve all my problems. But I'm paying 800 now... My heart is still bleeding tho.
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Believe or not I actually saved some money. I was going to pay 1600 to solve all my problems. But I'm paying 800 now... My heart is still bleeding tho.
Is your car and auto or a stick? The radiator for an A4 is over $300.00 alone from discounted sites, so assuming a dealer mark up it is not an awful price.
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Is your car and auto or a stick? The radiator for an A4 is over $300.00 alone from discounted sites, so assuming a dealer mark up it is not an awful price.
mine is auto, the dealer just change the tube. not the whole radiator. and the tie rods.
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Originally Posted by GySgt1811
Then, again, maybe you just elected a Pope!

Seriously, glad you got it worked out. This is one of those little bits of info one saves for later. Thanks.

Gunny John
let's hope no one has to been through what i have been through
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dadaroo
Suggest you stay away from that "mechanic". I figured it was coolant to have it exit both sides of the car.
yes, now i doubt if he even checked for everything before when he "diagnosis."
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If you still need this looked at give us a call. We can take care of it for you.
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Originally Posted by helios_1215
Believe or not I actually saved some money. I was going to pay 1600 to solve all my problems. But I'm paying 800 now... My heart is still bleeding tho.
If you paid 800 for tie rod ends your A$$ should be bleeding.
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If you paid 800 for tie rod ends your A$$ should be bleeding.
The dealer charged me 120 for each side labor, 170 for 4 wheels alignment. Each tie rod end is 125, tube is about 160. A little over 800 before tax.
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 10:46 PM
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160 for a ****in hose? Holy cow. Ill stick to doing my own wrenching. Glad you got it fixed though man.
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dnealy
160 for a ****in hose? Holy cow. Ill stick to doing my own wrenching. Glad you got it fixed though man.
Thanks! I know, I should try to do it myself. Probably won't be that bad either...
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 06:22 AM
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Helios, don't beat yourself up about taking it to a shop. My dad was a lawyer, so car repair was not something I learned growing up. I have taught myself a lot, but I have found that when you do your own work you need the following 3 things:

1) a second car to drive while you work on the first one
2) Knowledge resources on what to do (a repair manual, this Forum and YouTube can cover most of that)
3) A garage bay to work in ( a lot of things can be done in a driveway, but not if it rains for a week straight)

Your local community college probably has automotive courses, if you want a more formal education. The program here is quite large and includes partnerships with Auto manufacturers for brand specific certification (Toyota, etc).

Back to your recent repair, as an example of the cost savings, both RockAuto.com and CorvetteCentral.com will sell you AC Delco (GM official parts) tie rod ends for a C5 for about $50 each. That would have saved you at least $150 on the tie rod cost, plus the labor savings, so if you like the idea of working on your can, it is worth learning.
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