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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 10:21 PM
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Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF "Multi Vehicle"

Any reason why this might be detrimental to the trans? I"m not asking "what is the best....."

I'm asking, will this stuff harm my trans? Thanks.
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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 10:58 PM
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Depends ... what year and model?
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Early C5's had paper blocker rings and this oil will cause problems, it did with my 1998. I went to Amsoil and it solved problems. I think 2001 was the change date.

I am talking about manual transmissions. C5's use ATF in their manual transmissions.

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Yes, I am talking about manual trans as well (hence, the title of the thread).

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Depends ... what year and model?
Well, I hope this doesn't get the thread locked, but I posted here b/c I feel you guys are more tech savvy than others, and it's the same pieces/parts.

It's an '05 Cadillac CTS-V. I'm assuming that being an '05, it would be the newer trans W/O the paper blocker ring...but I don't know for sure. Is it possible that GM used 6 year old trannies in the V? I don't know, but I'm inclined to doubt it. I have the fluid in the car already. If it does cause an issue, what should I look for? What will the symptom be?

Thanks for the replies thus far.
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Symptoms didn't show up for many thousands of miles, like 20,000 or more. Started to be hard to shift into 6th gear, I knew the synchros were not going, who speed shifts into 6th gear?

You will probably be okay with an 05.

BTW, nice car. I am eyeing the new CTS with the twin turbo V6 (420 HP), might make a good "family" car.

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Here's more info, from one of my old posts:

I used Mobil 1 ATF in my 1998 C5 for about 50,000 miles and the transmission started grinding going into 5th and 6th gear. Changed the transmission fluid to Amsoil Torque and it immediately stopped. Now after 30,000 miles it is still okay.

Prior to 2001, the transmissions used paper blocker rings and using synthetic ATF can make them fail to synchronize the gears. Amsoil is an exception, it works.

Update: I now have over 140,000 miles on the car with no trans problems!
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O.K. Thanks. I appreciate the input.

Agree with you; the new TT CTS would be a fantastic car. We love ours, and I'm sure the new one is much better.
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One of the best ATFs (and it can be used in any year C5 Tranny) is the AMSOIL Torque Drive ATF

Contact one of the AMSOIL Forum members. I got mine from Subdriver.

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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF "Multi Vehicle"

Any reason why this might be detrimental to the trans? I"m not asking "what is the best....."

I'm asking, will this stuff harm my trans? Thanks.
The Mobil 1 Synthetic Mult-Vehicle ATF is a synthetic blend. While I wouldn't try to make a case that this could harm your transmission, I personally wouldn't use it. There are enough good full synthetic Dexron III ATFs on the market that I'd find an alternative. The transmission is hard on fluids due to the shear forces and most fluids see a dramatic drop in viscosity as the molecules in the fluid break. Synthetics resist this much better.

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Why not just use the GM factory manual transmission and transfer case fluid?

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