CAGS Defeat . . . Why???
Safety Car
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St. Jude Donor '03-'04-'05
Re: CAGS Defeat . . . Why??? (Sixguns)
Speaking of 1-4 shifts...
Under the SAME acceleration, sometimes the light goes on and other times it does NOT, and yet, I can feel the 2nd gear lockout both times.
Is there a reason the light is coming on at certain times and not others?
Under the SAME acceleration, sometimes the light goes on and other times it does NOT, and yet, I can feel the 2nd gear lockout both times.
Is there a reason the light is coming on at certain times and not others?
Instructor
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From: Annandale NJ
Re: CAGS Defeat . . . Why??? (STRSHP)
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You're correct and I felt the same way for over a year. Then I had to start doing some driving where I get caught in stop and go traffic jams and it isn't practical/possible to drive through it. So I spent $1 for a pack of 5 resistors at Radio Shack and disabled it. (now have 4 spare resistors). Another reason to disable is that if you let other people drive it who aren't as "enthusiastic" as we are, they won't get nailed by it
OK so everyone is talking about how important it is to have a CAGS defeat installed. I finally got my new '02 6 speed last Friday - the first time I have every had a manual trans in a Vette - and it seems as though I have been forced to skip shift like twice. It would seem to me that unless you drive like an old lady, there wouldn't even been a need for this!
Is my viewpoint wrong or will the time come when I finally realize that I should have installed it? I thought we were supposed to drive these cars like we stole 'em!
Is my viewpoint wrong or will the time come when I finally realize that I should have installed it? I thought we were supposed to drive these cars like we stole 'em!
Team Owner
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From: S.W. Ohio. . . . . . NRA Life Member
Re: CAGS Defeat . . . Why??? (mbtc5vette)
I think GM put it in the car to punish those of you that drive like a sissy.
To think any different about why CAGS is there, I'd think someone is either naive, or in denial (unless they are talking tongue-n-cheek :) ); but thats just my opinion.
[Modified by Mike Mercury, 2:34 PM 7/4/2002]
Melting Slicks
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From: MCO
Re: CAGS Defeat . . . Why??? (TooManyIDs)
Always hit me when I was behind someone, at a light, making a left turn. I don't like the surprise of not being able to shift to second gear and dumping it to fourth leaves the car way low on rpms.
Le Mans Master
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From: Ex-SF Bay Area; now happily Denver area
Re: CAGS Defeat . . . Why??? (EscapePod)
You can get a resistor from Radio Shack for $1.29 and bypass it.
Just after getting the car, I was turning left onto a freeway entrance that had two lanes that merged into one. Due to CAGS I had to shift into 4th and then this guy on a Harley punches it barely in front of me...and no way could I get it back to a decent gear in time in time to make a run for it...so I just kind of hung back until he was ahead of me and that's when I decided that I was never again going to be left wanting a lower gear and not having it available. You've got to have the power there when you need it, regardless of the situation.
Just after getting the car, I was turning left onto a freeway entrance that had two lanes that merged into one. Due to CAGS I had to shift into 4th and then this guy on a Harley punches it barely in front of me...and no way could I get it back to a decent gear in time in time to make a run for it...so I just kind of hung back until he was ahead of me and that's when I decided that I was never again going to be left wanting a lower gear and not having it available. You've got to have the power there when you need it, regardless of the situation.
Burning Brakes
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From: Charlotte NC
Re: CAGS Defeat . . . Why??? (STRSHP)
OK so everyone is talking about how important it is to have a CAGS defeat installed. I finally got my new '02 6 speed last Friday - the first time I have every had a manual trans in a Vette - and it seems as though I have been forced to skip shift like twice. It would seem to me that unless you drive like an old lady, there wouldn't even been a need for this!
Is my viewpoint wrong or will the time come when I finally realize that I should have installed it? I thought we were supposed to drive these cars like we stole 'em!
Is my viewpoint wrong or will the time come when I finally realize that I should have installed it? I thought we were supposed to drive these cars like we stole 'em!
Safety Car
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From: Wilmington NC
Re: CAGS Defeat . . . Why??? (STRSHP)
OK so everyone is talking about how important it is to have a CAGS defeat installed. I finally got my new '02 6 speed last Friday - the first time I have every had a manual trans in a Vette - and it seems as though I have been forced to skip shift like twice. It would seem to me that unless you drive like an old lady, there wouldn't even been a need for this!
Is my viewpoint wrong or will the time come when I finally realize that I should have installed it? I thought we were supposed to drive these cars like we stole 'em!
Is my viewpoint wrong or will the time come when I finally realize that I should have installed it? I thought we were supposed to drive these cars like we stole 'em!
Burning Brakes
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From: The Internet
Re: CAGS Defeat . . . Why??? (Richin Chicago)
I predict that with time, you'll understand
If you have to drive in traffic there will come a time where you will feel you no longer can tolerate the CAGS.
Now, if the above seems a lot of "ands" that means that its not going to happen all the time.
Additionally, now that I know that when the "1-4 shift" light is illuminated that if I chose to shift from first I will go to fourth else one just drives through the interlock and changes to second. No big deal, honestly. Of course, that's assuming I haven't already changed up to second which, in traffic, I probably already had.
Until I understood how CAGS worked I was annoyed and even concerned about being able to change at the right time. Now I understand how CAGS works, for me its a non-problem.
Please, those of you with the CAGS bypass, no flames intended I just wanted to balance the scales a little and show that there are those of us with daily drivers who do not need the CAGS bypass and there are no maverick Hondas queued up to take potshots at me at blind turns either ;)
[Modified by chocoholic, 2:30 PM 7/5/2002]
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From: S.W. Ohio. . . . . . NRA Life Member
Re: CAGS Defeat . . . Why??? (chocoholic)
CAGS Defeat . . . Why???
CAGS Defeat . . . why not??? :)
to each his own, and the freedom that the choice can be made.
[Modified by Mike Mercury, 3:01 PM 7/5/2002]
CAGS Defeat . . . why not??? :)
to each his own, and the freedom that the choice can be made.
[Modified by Mike Mercury, 3:01 PM 7/5/2002]
Le Mans Master
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From: Oakland, CA
Re: CAGS Defeat . . . Why???
CAGS Defeat: why?
Because I feel like a dork when I decide to shift into second and I grab fourth by mistake, and I don't need my car's help in making me feel like a dork.
I got my !CAGS installed by a nice man who did me a favor at my museum delivery.
Thanks Adam.
I've driven my wife's Formula with CAGS. It doesn't happen often but it's irritating when it does. I just can't get used to the idea of finding out how the car is going to behave by looking at an idiot light or feeling it halfway through a shift.
I get better fuel economy than my wife anyway.
.Jinx
Because I feel like a dork when I decide to shift into second and I grab fourth by mistake, and I don't need my car's help in making me feel like a dork.
I got my !CAGS installed by a nice man who did me a favor at my museum delivery.
Thanks Adam.
I've driven my wife's Formula with CAGS. It doesn't happen often but it's irritating when it does. I just can't get used to the idea of finding out how the car is going to behave by looking at an idiot light or feeling it halfway through a shift.
I get better fuel economy than my wife anyway.
.Jinx
Burning Brakes
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From: The Internet
Re: CAGS Defeat . . . Why??? (Mike Mercury)
to each his own, and the freedom that the choice can be made.
