C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Fuel Gauge Issue, no not that one....

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 23, 2013 | 09:05 AM
  #1  
RJVette23's Avatar
RJVette23
Thread Starter
Advanced
20 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
From: Raleigh NC
Default Fuel Gauge Issue, no not that one....

Like most others I've experienced the "dead" fuel gauge, reset the error code, use Techron, etc......pain, yes, but dealing with it until I feel like replacing the sending units.

But over the past few days I've noticed another issue. I have about a half tank of gas, start the car and the gauge reads low with the "reserve fuel" message. After about 5 minutes of driving the needle rises to show the half tank position.......

Any help/thoughts would be appreciated.....
Reply
Old Nov 23, 2013 | 09:29 AM
  #2  
VinnyT's Avatar
VinnyT
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,364
Likes: 6
From: Rocky Mount Virginia
Default

Are you parked on an incline? Mine does that if I'm on an angle.
Reply
Old Nov 23, 2013 | 09:38 AM
  #3  
RJVette23's Avatar
RJVette23
Thread Starter
Advanced
20 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
From: Raleigh NC
Default

Nope, flat parking lot at work, level garage at home....
Reply
Old Nov 23, 2013 | 10:58 AM
  #4  
LoneStarFRC's Avatar
LoneStarFRC
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 36,836
Likes: 244
From: Dear Karma, I have a list of people you missed.
St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
Default

Originally Posted by RJVette23
......... but dealing with it until I feel like replacing the sending units.
Smart move. Driver side is replaceable as a separate unit. Passenger side only replaceable as entire siphon pump/sender assembly.

Driver's side: AC Delco SK1318 (GM part# 10333749) Includes new filter sock. Approx $80 to $85. Does NOT include new tank gasket.



You may be able to reuse your gasket and bolts, but be very careful when re-attaching the bolts. I don't have the correct torque in front of me, but the threads in the tank are brass. If you get a new gasket, it comes with all new bolts (usually with one spare also).

Gasket (same for both sides) AC Delco G25. Prices will be anywhere from $37 to $50, depending where you shop. That may seem high, but trust me, that's the going rate. That gasket is a special design and ONLY used on C5 Corvettes, due to the fuel tank design. Again, be SURE you do not over-torque those fasteners, and use the crisscross "star" pattern, much the same as tightening lug nuts.



To replace the right side, you need:



AC Delco MU1218 complete assembly, approx $260 to $300 depending where you buy, and should come with the new gasket. That second photo is also an ACDelco piece. Note the filter (wire mesh) is of a different design than the original, as well as the left tank. This is normal on the newer or replacement right side units.
The Bosch unit (part #67466) will save you a few bucks at $226.79 (rockauto), and also sold at Summit. No gasket with the Bosch I don't believe. Bosch is good quality. Carter and Airtex also make it as well.

Last edited by LoneStarFRC; Nov 23, 2013 at 02:50 PM. Reason: clarify
Reply
Old Nov 23, 2013 | 11:40 AM
  #5  
RJVette23's Avatar
RJVette23
Thread Starter
Advanced
20 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
From: Raleigh NC
Default

Thanks for the info.....left home this morning, all things normal.....oh well guess I have my own "intermittent" gremlin now!!
Reply
Old Nov 23, 2013 | 12:06 PM
  #6  
69's Avatar
69
Melting Slicks
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 2,340
Likes: 854
From: MI
Cruise-In VI Veteran
Default

Originally Posted by RJVette23
Like most others I've experienced the "dead" fuel gauge, reset the error code, use Techron, etc......pain, yes, but dealing with it until I feel like replacing the sending units.

But over the past few days I've noticed another issue. I have about a half tank of gas, start the car and the gauge reads low with the "reserve fuel" message. After about 5 minutes of driving the needle rises to show the half tank position.......

Any help/thoughts would be appreciated.....
Hello, check for codes, Check your Vette per the TSB

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...s#.UpDe9IIo7IU

--------------------------------------------------------
Source: Chevrolet Dealer Service Bulletin
Number: 01-06-04-022
Subject: Inaccurate/Erratic Fuel Level Gauge Readings (Install New Sensor, Strainer and/or RH Fuel Sender Assembly)
Model Year: 1997-2000 Chevrolet Corvette

Condition

Some owners may comment about inaccurate/erratic fuel level gauge reading conditions such as those indicated below:

Fuel gage suddenly drops to E (empty) and CHECK GAGES message illuminates (DTC P1431 or P0461 set).

Fuel gage does not go to F (full) after filling fuel tank.

Vehicle runs out of fuel while the gage still indicates fuel is available.

Cause

The conditions indicated above may be the result of one or a combination of more than one of the causes indicated below:

Stuck or intermittent sticking of the sensor float arm.

Clogged/restricted R.H. fuel sender assembly jet pump.

R.H. jet pump unable to transfer fuel due to fuel vaporization resulting in bubble accumulation in the fuel strainer.


Correction
Inspect the Julian date codes located on the bar code labels attached to the R.H. and L.H. fuel level sender assembly cover plates as shown in the figure. If the R.H. sender date code is less/smaller than "01301", replace the complete assembly with a new fuel sender kit indicated below by model year. If the L.H. sender date code is less/smaller than "32791", replace the existing fuel sender sensor and strainer with those components contained in the applicable sensor and strainer kits shown below by model year.

To insure correct installation, follow the service procedure contained in the applicable Service Manual and the instructions contained in the service kits.

Parts Information

Part Number
Description

88896043
R.H. Fuel Sender Kit (1997-1999 M.Y.)

88895126
R.H. Fuel Sender Kit (2000 M.Y.)

88899034
Fuel Sensor Kit (1997-2000 M.Y.)

12458245
Fuel Strainer Kit (1997-1999 M.Y.)

12459862
Fuel Strainer Kit (2000 M.Y.)

Check out the below post with pics to see the worn wiper contacts on the card.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...ng-unit-2.html

Cheers,
Goose
Reply
Old Nov 23, 2013 | 12:16 PM
  #7  
jcgunn's Avatar
jcgunn
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Veteran: Air Force
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,388
Likes: 403
From: Horseshoe Bend ID
Default

What code do you get? That will tell you which side is bad.
Reply
Old Nov 23, 2013 | 02:55 PM
  #8  
LoneStarFRC's Avatar
LoneStarFRC
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 36,836
Likes: 244
From: Dear Karma, I have a list of people you missed.
St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
Default

Originally Posted by RJVette23
Thanks for the info.....left home this morning, all things normal.....oh well guess I have my own "intermittent" gremlin now!!
I hate to say it, but I think your senders are living on borrowed time. As good as Techron is - and I really think highly of it - it can only go so far.

Give us an update if anything changes.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Nov 23, 2013 | 04:25 PM
  #9  
Gitusum's Avatar
Gitusum
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,460
Likes: 16
From: hamilton alabama
Default

so if i fill my tank up and it gets down to about 5/8 of a tank then drops to empty then is it most likely the passenger side tank unit thats bad?
Reply
Old Nov 23, 2013 | 04:46 PM
  #10  
LoneStarFRC's Avatar
LoneStarFRC
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 36,836
Likes: 244
From: Dear Karma, I have a list of people you missed.
St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
Default

Originally Posted by Gitusum
so if i fill my tank up and it gets down to about 5/8 of a tank then drops to empty then is it most likely the passenger side tank unit thats bad?
From all the feed-back I've seen over the years, plus my own experience, it's the most common culprit.

Your DTC codes can help provide some insight.
Reply
Old Nov 23, 2013 | 05:53 PM
  #11  
RJVette23's Avatar
RJVette23
Thread Starter
Advanced
20 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
From: Raleigh NC
Default

Thanks all......next time I get a code I'll check. Thanks for the great detail and info.
Reply
Old Nov 25, 2013 | 08:08 PM
  #12  
Jumper11's Avatar
Jumper11
Racer
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 337
Likes: 1
From: Mechanicsville Md
Default

2002 C5 coupe, got a similar problem. Fill car up and gauge goes past full. Doesn't move until Ive gone 60 miles and then it goes to 3/4. Drive more than 25 miles without shutting it off and gauge goes to zero. Reset the code using the DTC and gauge get normal until I drive another 25+ miles. P1431 consistently is a clear indicator that the RH fuel level sender is AFU. I got one off of ebay and waiting for a warmer day to change. I don't want to have the heater on in the garage when I'm draining the tank. Hoping for warm weather. Got any insight on the best way to get the gas out of the RH tank?
Reply
Old Nov 25, 2013 | 09:19 PM
  #13  
jcgunn's Avatar
jcgunn
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Veteran: Air Force
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,388
Likes: 403
From: Horseshoe Bend ID
Default

Drive the car until it has a gallon or two left.
Reply
Old Nov 25, 2013 | 10:00 PM
  #14  
LoneStarFRC's Avatar
LoneStarFRC
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 36,836
Likes: 244
From: Dear Karma, I have a list of people you missed.
St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
Default C5 fuel drain kit

Originally Posted by Jumper11
...........Got any insight on the best way to get the gas out of the RH tank?


www.racetronix.com/
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2013 | 10:36 AM
  #15  
Mickeyrx70's Avatar
Mickeyrx70
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 3,498
Likes: 680
From: The beautiful Alabama Gulf Coast!!
Default

Originally Posted by Jumper11
2002 C5 coupe, got a similar problem. Fill car up and gauge goes past full. Doesn't move until Ive gone 60 miles and then it goes to 3/4. Drive more than 25 miles without shutting it off and gauge goes to zero. Reset the code using the DTC and gauge get normal until I drive another 25+ miles. P1431 consistently is a clear indicator that the RH fuel level sender is AFU. I got one off of ebay and waiting for a warmer day to change. I don't want to have the heater on in the garage when I'm draining the tank. Hoping for warm weather. Got any insight on the best way to get the gas out of the RH tank?
------
Same MY ('02), same symptoms, and same DTC (P1431). Even though it appears the issue is the right sending unit, I'll likely replace both sides. This is a sending unit/gauge issue & any remaining fuel is still usuable, right?
Reply
Old Nov 27, 2013 | 06:56 AM
  #16  
LoneStarFRC's Avatar
LoneStarFRC
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 36,836
Likes: 244
From: Dear Karma, I have a list of people you missed.
St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
Default

Originally Posted by Mickeyrx70
------
This is a sending unit/gauge issue & any remaining fuel is still usuable, right?
MAYBE, but in all likelihood NO. See my PM to you Mickey.

Last edited by LoneStarFRC; Dec 4, 2013 at 11:33 PM. Reason: typos, ugh
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2013 | 10:20 PM
  #17  
Gitusum's Avatar
Gitusum
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,460
Likes: 16
From: hamilton alabama
Default

Originally Posted by LoneStarFRC
how will that work if the pump is needing to be replaced? hooking that up wont work if the pump is bad correct?

Last edited by Gitusum; Dec 4, 2013 at 11:09 PM.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Fuel Gauge Issue, no not that one....

Old Dec 4, 2013 | 11:11 PM
  #18  
Chicago1's Avatar
Chicago1
Race Director
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 12,413
Likes: 501
From: Rio Rancho NM
Default

Just drive it to it's about 1/8 is left and put a bucket under. Should take you maybe 45mins or so to change out. It's not hard..



Cover removed..



Making it rain....



To much rain....





For future reference make sure you have 1/8th tank of gas.. Like it's been said a ton of times..



Coming out..



That a boy..



She's out







new sending unit..



going in ....





Reply
Old Dec 4, 2013 | 11:19 PM
  #19  
LoneStarFRC's Avatar
LoneStarFRC
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 36,836
Likes: 244
From: Dear Karma, I have a list of people you missed.
St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
Default

Originally Posted by Gitusum
how will that work if the pump is needing to be replaced? hooking that up wont work if the pump is bad correct?
If the electric pump were dead yes, but then again if the "pump" was indeed dead, he couldn't drive the vehicle in the first place.

There's two pumps, one electric in the driver's side tank and one mechanical (called a siphon-jet pump) in the passenger side tank. The Racetronix unit speeds up fuel removal, but you can also remove the fuel cap and disconnect the appropriate line(s) at each tank and let it drain that way as well. If you remove the quick-connect line and quickly push a hose onto the nipple it helps direct the gas to a container for collection.
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2013 | 11:24 PM
  #20  
Gitusum's Avatar
Gitusum
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,460
Likes: 16
From: hamilton alabama
Default

my gas gauge goes to empty once it gets to about 5/8 of a tank from full so i am assuming its the passenger side thats bad and if thats the case isnt the passenger side staying full of gas? and if so i have a full tank on that tank to try and drop
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:41 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-1
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette buyer's guide

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


VIEW MORE