One step up from HP Plus
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One step up from HP Plus
I was doing some spirited driving on my way home from work (100mph+) and the stock ZO6 pads were smelling kinda "sweet"...they seemed to be stopping OK, but I will need replacement pads soon.
Dusting is not an issue as the stock pads seem to dust quite a bit and sound is a non issue for me...
What I am looking for is a pad that will stop VERY well on the street with a little bit of warm up....I am very good at anticipating stopping instances and was wondering if there is anything better than the HP Plus out there for street and track use(about 1-2x per year on the track)...
Dusting is not an issue as the stock pads seem to dust quite a bit and sound is a non issue for me...
What I am looking for is a pad that will stop VERY well on the street with a little bit of warm up....I am very good at anticipating stopping instances and was wondering if there is anything better than the HP Plus out there for street and track use(about 1-2x per year on the track)...
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I have a C5 front brake conversion on my '87 autocross/track day car and I use OEM Z06 pads in front and HP+ in the rear. While the car is nowhere near as quick as a Z06, this pad combo does a very good job for me. For autocross I use Hoosier A6 slicks and Nitto NT05 tires for tacks use. I've never seen serious brake fade even with repeated braking from 130 down to 25 or so.
Good fluid is also a must. I use ATE Super Blue and it's a DOT4 fluid. I do a complete fluid flush at least once each season and I also use braided flex lines. For rotors, I use stock-style rotors without slots or holes as I consider rotors (and pads) to be maintenance items especially when they get abused.
IMHO, the down side with the HP+ pad is dust. There's lots of it, even during street use. And this particular dust will eat up wheel finishes if it gets wet and then dries out. The HP+ pads need some heat for them to start working and they will squeal horribly when cold.
I've heard good things about the CarboTech pads. You may want to ask CarboTech Adam. The company is a CF Supporting Vendor and he's the contact for members.
Good fluid is also a must. I use ATE Super Blue and it's a DOT4 fluid. I do a complete fluid flush at least once each season and I also use braided flex lines. For rotors, I use stock-style rotors without slots or holes as I consider rotors (and pads) to be maintenance items especially when they get abused.
IMHO, the down side with the HP+ pad is dust. There's lots of it, even during street use. And this particular dust will eat up wheel finishes if it gets wet and then dries out. The HP+ pads need some heat for them to start working and they will squeal horribly when cold.
I've heard good things about the CarboTech pads. You may want to ask CarboTech Adam. The company is a CF Supporting Vendor and he's the contact for members.
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I have a C5 front brake conversion on my '87 autocross/track day car and I use OEM Z06 pads in front and HP+ in the rear. While the car is nowhere near as quick as a Z06, this pad combo does a very good job for me. For autocross I use Hoosier A6 slicks and Nitto NT05 tires for tacks use. I've never seen serious brake fade even with repeated braking from 130 down to 25 or so.
Good fluid is also a must. I use ATE Super Blue and it's a DOT4 fluid. I do a complete fluid flush at least once each season and I also use braided flex lines. For rotors, I use stock-style rotors without slots or holes as I consider rotors (and pads) to be maintenance items especially when they get abused.
IMHO, the down side with the HP+ pad is dust. There's lots of it, even during street use. And this particular dust will eat up wheel finishes if it gets wet and then dries out. The HP+ pads need some heat for them to start working and they will squeal horribly when cold.
I've heard good things about the CarboTech pads. You may want to ask CarboTech Adam. The company is a CF Supporting Vendor and he's the contact for members.
Good fluid is also a must. I use ATE Super Blue and it's a DOT4 fluid. I do a complete fluid flush at least once each season and I also use braided flex lines. For rotors, I use stock-style rotors without slots or holes as I consider rotors (and pads) to be maintenance items especially when they get abused.
IMHO, the down side with the HP+ pad is dust. There's lots of it, even during street use. And this particular dust will eat up wheel finishes if it gets wet and then dries out. The HP+ pads need some heat for them to start working and they will squeal horribly when cold.
I've heard good things about the CarboTech pads. You may want to ask CarboTech Adam. The company is a CF Supporting Vendor and he's the contact for members.
Op check out hawk dtc70 pads too. Very well for street/track
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You should look at running the Carbotech xp10 front & xp8 rear combo. This will preform very well on the track and street. The dust is a 100% non corossive will not harm your wheels or paint and the performance is miles ahead of the hp+. I will be happy to help you if interested.
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You should look at running the Carbotech xp10 front & xp8 rear combo. This will preform very well on the track and street. The dust is a 100% non corossive will not harm your wheels or paint and the performance is miles ahead of the hp+. I will be happy to help you if interested.
do you have friction co efficient at 60-90deg vs the hp+
i couldn't find any brake dynos online that show a torque curve of either pad with a temperature range
kind of curious where these pads start to hit and what they line up next to bite wise in that 40-100deg zone
Last edited by racebum; Dec 26, 2013 at 12:03 AM.
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St. Jude Donor '11,'13
according to your own published specs these pads are listed at 200deg + which is not where a first street stop will be
do you have friction co efficient at 60-90deg vs the hp+
i couldn't find any brake dynos online that show a torque curve of either pad with a temperature range
kind of curious where these pads start to hit and what they line up next to bite wise in that 40-100deg zone
do you have friction co efficient at 60-90deg vs the hp+
i couldn't find any brake dynos online that show a torque curve of either pad with a temperature range
kind of curious where these pads start to hit and what they line up next to bite wise in that 40-100deg zone
