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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 06:07 PM
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Does anyone know what the actual Liters or gallons per hour the stock fuel pump flows in our cars (mine's an '01 Z if there's different units).

I've only been able to find one post where the responder *thought* it was 190 gph. Just trying to confirm one way or another.

I'm sure it's out there somewhere, I've tried searching here and Google but having no luck. Gonna try the local dealer Monday if nothing else.

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Are you having a running problem? As far as I know, the stock pumps can support 450 na rwhp. GM cars have had problems with voltage drops to the fuel pumps.
If Bill sees this I'm sure he will have some good info for you.
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Default Fuel pump flow rate

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Are you having a running problem? As far as I know, the stock pumps can support 450 na rwhp. GM cars have had problems with voltage drops to the fuel pumps.
Nope, no problems. All the aftermarket "upgraded pumps" I see show a flow rate. I'd like to know where my fuel system is starting before I blindly make any changes (I may not need to make any for that matter).

My stock pump with 42# injectors seems to have worked fine with my 383's ~500rwhp. I'm hoping my new motor will have a little bit more hp/tq.

So, I'm not looking for "the factory pump will support xyz hp", which is all I've been able to find. I just want to know what the stock fuel pump's flow rating is.

Anyone?

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Old Dec 30, 2013 | 04:54 PM
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I couldn't find a flow spec for the stock pump in the service manual but I did read through the fuel system diagnosis that lists the desired pressure and flow rates in testing procedures to determine if the pump is good. The spec is 300 ml in 10 seconds which works out to 108 lph.
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Originally Posted by Patches
The spec is 300 ml in 10 seconds which works out to 108 lph.
108 liters per hour converts to a little over 28.5 gallons. That volume seems low compared to what is published by various makers of electric pumps and their ability to support X amount of HP.
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108 liters per hour converts to a little over 28.5 gallons. That volume seems low compared to what is published by various makers of electric pumps and their ability to support X amount of HP.
That's just a calculation based on what the manual says is needed for normal operation. Max flow spec is probably higher.
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Originally Posted by Patches
I couldn't find a flow spec for the stock pump in the service manual but I did read through the fuel system diagnosis that lists the desired pressure and flow rates in testing procedures to determine if the pump is good. The spec is 300 ml in 10 seconds which works out to 108 lph.
Hi Patches-

Just wanted to say "thank you" for looking into this for me. I checked with a local dealer as well and was told he couldn't find an actual spec. for this either.

It would be nice to know exactly how much more flow the Lingenfelter pump kit or Racetronix kits flow over stock...?

Thanks again,
-Rick
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I believe my stock walbro said 190 lph. I will look at it tonight
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Is the manual giving the flow while producing pressure vs the free flow typically quoted by aftermarket manufacturers?
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The procedure is based on using a Tech 2 to initiate 10 seconds of flow with the ignition on but engine not running and having the gasoline run from the pump into a container. The volume is then measured and compared to the min. 300 ml volume to determine if sufficinet flow exists. Not a highly controlled test but good enough to determine if the pump is flowing adequately and probably accurate to a few % points. Given all the specs the SM has, I'm a little surprised this one was left out.
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Originally Posted by Switchbarrel
Hi Patches-

Just wanted to say "thank you" for looking into this for me. I checked with a local dealer as well and was told he couldn't find an actual spec. for this either.

It would be nice to know exactly how much more flow the Lingenfelter pump kit or Racetronix kits flow over stock...?

Thanks again,
-Rick
I would contact those vendors. They should be able to tell you everything you need to know including if you need to upgrade the wiring to handle voltage drop which CAN be an issue.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 10:46 AM
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I thought the flow was measured on the return line going into the jet or siphon pump which would mean it's the fuel flow under pressure. You then also measure after the jet pump to ensure the jet pump is moving fuel to the other tank.
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Here's the instruction sequence from the SM:

1. Add fuel to the left fuel tank.
2. Disconnect the auxiliary fuel feed rear pipe from the right fuel sender. Refer to Fuel Hose/Pipes Assembly Replacement .
3. Insert the auxiliary fuel feed rear pipe into an approved gasoline container.
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You may need to command the fuel pump ON a few times in order to obtain the specified time limit.
4. Command the fuel pump ON for the specified time with a scan tool.
5. Measure the volume of fuel.
Is the volume of fuel greater than the specified value?

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10 seconds
300 ml (0.633 pt)
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Yes, right tank holds the jet pump so any flow measured there is not the free flow output of the main pump.
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Sounds like pulling the tube from the left tank that feeds the siphon and measuring there would be a more realistic output of the pump.
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Originally Posted by Chicago1
I believe my stock walbro said 190 lph. I will look at it tonight
Sounds about right. My other GM cars stock were about 170 lph.

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Originally Posted by dadaroo
I would contact those vendors. They should be able to tell you everything you need to know including if you need to upgrade the wiring to handle voltage drop which CAN be an issue.
That was my next option. Figuring, if they sell it as an "upgrade", they should be able to tell me how much of an upgrade it is. Just hoping they don't say ->

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I looked I think I tossed it but I am sure it said 190
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