Anyone know whats inside the "sealed module" with 4 wires coming out?

 

FLUX CAPACITOR??

I have not taken one apart but here is the schematic:

 

That question is currently (and hurriedly) being researched in China as we speak.

 

who cares.. just buy it, it works..

 

Thanks Bill:
Now I can make my own. Where do you get the mouse from?

 

Any one with a REAL answer

 

Hank

Its probably a JK FLIP FLOP chip and supportig circuits that changes state to match the state that the BCM needs logic wise to work.

One wire is power and the other is ground. The other two are the outputs

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Without ripping one apart, its tough to tell.

Even if you do rip one apart, it may be potted so people cant just copy the design. I know If I made and sold it, thats what I would do.

BC

 

Like Jack Nicholson said: "You can't handle the truth"

 

You might get a better response if you would indicate why you are asking the question.

- Do you have an LMC5, and it doesn't work?

- Are you trying to see if it will work in another vehicle?

- Is your C5 wiring modded and you want to determine if it will still work?

I would think all those issues could be answered quickly by merely calling Richard at Compliance Parts. By now, there is plenty of evidence that the product works and the support is robust. If you have doubts about using the product, then don't consider it.

I can think of no other valid reasons to ask the question. The developer will want to protect his investment and intellectual property. Curiosity is okay but the component details are 'really' none of your business. If you really want to know, buy one and break it open, and keep the findings to yourself. Good luck to you.

 

I have worked with electronics for decades. I wondered what the $40 to $50 gem contained. Many posts on this forum are informational.
To the poster who said it is none of my business (is he the guardian of technology or maybe the defender of the turbonator) inquiring minds like to know.

 

Someone did enough research and design to fix a problem that GM couldn't. Then he manufactured and marketed it, then he provided technical support to all who needed it. $50 bucks sounds like a deal to me, regardless of what's in it. GM had millions to invest and they couldn't fix it.

 

I thought that you would like my SCHEMATIC! That the schematic for an Iranian X Box!

 

The elusive Moral Rectifier! Where would you even find one?

 

**My apologies in advance to the OP. This wasn't meant to hijack your thread.**

We need someone to do that exact same thing for the EBCMs for the pre-2001 models. I mean, come on. It would appear, whether on not the PROM can be disassembled, a working one should be able to be copied to an EEPROM. The rest of the circuit doesn't look too hard to be duplicated. From all I've read, that rest of the parts are pretty standard stuff, but the primary chip has been the hold up for such a long time. The rest is just caps, relays and resistors. I'm not an EE, just stating an opinion. I've always wondered why the primary chip couldn't be copied to an EPROM.

 

You're on the right track.

 

Well,,,,,,,,, The type of circuit board and the way its assembled and constructed precludes it from being repaired. Its a type of ceramic board and the micro components are sealed onto the board.

There was a very in depth discussion about it and someone who does that type of repair for a living said FORGETABOUTIT!

However,, that being said, the relays and standard components are easily repaired/replaced.

There are TWO relays on the secondary board. The MAGNASTEER RELAY & the main power relay.

The microprocessor board is connected to the output pins by very small ALUMINUM WIRES and the entire assembly is surrounded in thick silicone gel. You cant solder the aluminum wires with a conventional solder iron.

Bill

 

If you wanted to know how to possibly bypass the column lock then you should have asked about circuits to possibly bypass the column lock. Why ask for proprietary details?

 

I said screw all the other options. Bought it, installed it, and haven't heard or thought about my CL since this thread. Awesome product.