6.0L truck engine question
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6.0L truck engine question
i thought this would be the best place to get an answer.
the 6.0L engine going into the silverado ss. what are its similarities to the ls1 vette engines and also what are the capabilities of these engines. the lightning has more horsepower but i think the silverado ss has more capabilities engine wise. whats available, heads???cams???forced induction
again only asking in the c5 section due to possible similarities in engines
the 6.0L engine going into the silverado ss. what are its similarities to the ls1 vette engines and also what are the capabilities of these engines. the lightning has more horsepower but i think the silverado ss has more capabilities engine wise. whats available, heads???cams???forced induction
again only asking in the c5 section due to possible similarities in engines
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Re: 6.0L truck engine question (wsaracen)
We have been putting 6.0l truck engines in Vettes and F-bodies for a while now. The short block is compatible with the LS1. The 6.0l heads are aweseome heads also, so I would stick with those and just have them ported. I do not have any experience with the 6.0l intake, but I think we could come up with something for that. If you have any questions, feel free to drop me an email or a call.
Good luck,
Good luck,
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Re: 6.0L truck engine question (wsaracen)
The LQ9 6.0 Liter heads are aluminum heads cast exactly like LS6 heads, but with larger combustion chambers.
Pre 2001 6.0 liter heads are cast iron and do not have the LS6 type cast.
Pre 2001 6.0 liter heads are cast iron and do not have the LS6 type cast.
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Re: 6.0L truck engine question (kewlbrz)
The LQ9 6.0 Liter heads are aluminum heads cast exactly like LS6 heads, but with larger combustion chambers.
Pre 2001 6.0 liter heads are cast iron and do not have the LS6 type cast.
Pre 2001 6.0 liter heads are cast iron and do not have the LS6 type cast.
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Re: 6.0L truck engine question (intel55)
I have a 6.0 block going in my Vette
I also have the LQ9 heads, Stage IV setup from SpeedDemon :D
engine will be 408 cid :cool:
I also have the LQ9 heads, Stage IV setup from SpeedDemon :D
engine will be 408 cid :cool:
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Re: 6.0L truck engine question (Chris@SpeedDemon)
Did you get them yet? What do you think??? Are they going to do what you want them to??? I must say, I was very pleased with that set of heads when it left. :yesnod:
Have not got them yet, though I am on the road and have not checked back today. I might as well get a big ole Winnebago!! :D :D :D
Anyways, I am fairly certain they will do what I want them to do :D
A friend of a friend of friend of a friend :D is coating the CC's for me. After the heads come my lil parts collection will be just about complete and ridicuously large :crazy:
Gonna have to redo my sig fairly soon :D ;)
Once I get them I will take some pics :D, probably won't be till later this week,when I have a stop over at home :crazy: :crazy:
With my sheetmetal intake volume, those heads should have minimal restrictions :smash: :cool:
8.99 here I come!!!!!!
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Re: 6.0L truck engine question (Chris@SpeedDemon)
Chris/Speeddemon:
As you may recall, i will also be in the market for an all bore or superstroker in the next year or so. I want to build an engine that will be the ultimate set up for best ets in the 1/4 mile and also be able to double as a weekend road warrior (not a daily driver anymore)
What engine do you suggest, that will propel me well into the 10s and be as reliable as possible? A 408 super stroker, larger cube stroker, solid roller cam vs. hydraluic (not taking $ into account and don't mind having to adjust it once a year) or an all bore. If all bore, what size? Does an all bore make a better drag racing engine than a super stroker?
Thanks,
Nitrovette :smash:
[Modified by Nitrovette, 12:04 PM 7/17/2002]
As you may recall, i will also be in the market for an all bore or superstroker in the next year or so. I want to build an engine that will be the ultimate set up for best ets in the 1/4 mile and also be able to double as a weekend road warrior (not a daily driver anymore)
What engine do you suggest, that will propel me well into the 10s and be as reliable as possible? A 408 super stroker, larger cube stroker, solid roller cam vs. hydraluic (not taking $ into account and don't mind having to adjust it once a year) or an all bore. If all bore, what size? Does an all bore make a better drag racing engine than a super stroker?
Thanks,
Nitrovette :smash:
[Modified by Nitrovette, 12:04 PM 7/17/2002]
Le Mans Master
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Re: 6.0L truck engine question (Nitrovette)
I have a couple of questions:
1) What is the factory bore in a 6l truck block?
2) How much can you bore it over the stock size?
3) Anyone have the p/n so I can check pricing on one of these blocks?
Thanks!
:crazy:
1) What is the factory bore in a 6l truck block?
2) How much can you bore it over the stock size?
3) Anyone have the p/n so I can check pricing on one of these blocks?
Thanks!
:crazy:
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Re: 6.0L truck engine question (Phil97SVT)
1) the stock bore size is 4"
2) I believe and Chris will correct me if I am wrong, but I think it can go 60 over.
3) If you need a block just let me know. We have 5 of them right now. These are from "pull out" motors right from the dealership. They are perfect for making big bore F-body or Corvette engines. :cheers:
2) I believe and Chris will correct me if I am wrong, but I think it can go 60 over.
3) If you need a block just let me know. We have 5 of them right now. These are from "pull out" motors right from the dealership. They are perfect for making big bore F-body or Corvette engines. :cheers:
Le Mans Master
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Re: 6.0L truck engine question (Hissey)
How much for the 6.0 block? BTW your sig pic looks like it is from one of the dealer auctions in Manheim Pa or Tx. Where was the pic taken?
Phillip
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Re: 6.0L truck engine question (Phil97SVT)
How much for the 6.0 block? BTW your sig pic looks like it is from one of the dealer auctions in Manheim Pa or Tx. Where was the pic taken?
Phillip
Phillip
Many other stock LS1 parts for sale pistons, rods, cranks, etc
Hi-po Lunati 4" forged crank(brand new in box) ,Several Billet LS1 performance cams(hyd and one solid), HOS stage 3 heads(never installed)
Hissey's sig pic was taken at a big Vette get-together here in Houston. His Driveway looks like a performance car auction lot :lol:
Any specific questions, e-mail Trace or Chuck.
Thanks
Trace
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Re: 6.0L truck engine question (Phil97SVT)
Lets play with the numbers, but it seems like a budget superstroker long block could be done for parts at something like:
6.0 liter .060 over iron block - 600.00
Australian Nodular Iron Crank 4.0 stroke (good to 800HP) - 895.00
Rods/pistons - 1500.00
LQ9 Heads with stage I porting and 2.02/1.60 - 1500.00
Cam - 400
Misc parts (gaskets etc) - 1000.00
4.06x4.00 = 415ci
That should be good for 475+ RWHP depending on cam selection at under 6000.00
Add a 1DSC blower for 5000.00 and your around the $12K mark making 650+ RWHP
[Modified by kewlbrz, 3:24 PM 7/17/2002]
6.0 liter .060 over iron block - 600.00
Australian Nodular Iron Crank 4.0 stroke (good to 800HP) - 895.00
Rods/pistons - 1500.00
LQ9 Heads with stage I porting and 2.02/1.60 - 1500.00
Cam - 400
Misc parts (gaskets etc) - 1000.00
4.06x4.00 = 415ci
That should be good for 475+ RWHP depending on cam selection at under 6000.00
Add a 1DSC blower for 5000.00 and your around the $12K mark making 650+ RWHP
[Modified by kewlbrz, 3:24 PM 7/17/2002]
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Re: 6.0L truck engine question (kewlbrz)
LQ9 Heads with stage I porting and 2.02/1.60 - 1500.00
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That should be good for 475+ RWHP depending on cam selection at under 6000.00
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That should be good for 475+ RWHP depending on cam selection at under 6000.00
I doubt “Stage I porting” will get you 475rwHP. Also you’ll have to open up the chambers to match the increased bore. That definitely goes beyond Stage I porting.
Also, obviously the total price doesn’t include any labor whatsoever ;)
Add a 1DSC blower for 5000.00 and your around the $12K mark making 650+ RWHP
You’d need a lot of additional stuff to make it work. A LOT.
Le Mans Master
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Re: 6.0L truck engine question
Well it has been a while since I was in college but here goes my best math skills:
6 liter truck block or 5.7 aluminum: $500
Stroker Crank: $1000-2200
Connecting Rods: $700
Pistons $750
Machine work: $500
Bearings/Rings $350
Studs and bolts: $400
Cost on parts less assembly $4200-5400
I can build the motor just need parts and my machine shop guy to bore,line hone, and clearance the block. :crazy: 427 here we come. :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash:
6 liter truck block or 5.7 aluminum: $500
Stroker Crank: $1000-2200
Connecting Rods: $700
Pistons $750
Machine work: $500
Bearings/Rings $350
Studs and bolts: $400
Cost on parts less assembly $4200-5400
I can build the motor just need parts and my machine shop guy to bore,line hone, and clearance the block. :crazy: 427 here we come. :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash:
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Re: 6.0L truck engine question (EuG)
LQ9 Heads with stage I porting and 2.02/1.60 - 1500.00
…
That should be good for 475+ RWHP depending on cam selection at under 6000.00
I doubt “Stage I porting” will get you 475rwHP. Also you’ll have to open up the chambers to match the increased bore. That definitely goes beyond Stage I porting.
Also, obviously the total price doesn’t include any labor whatsoever ;)
Add a 1DSC blower for 5000.00 and your around the $12K mark making 650+ RWHP
You can definitely forget about adding a blower on top of a stroker for $5K :nonod:
You’d need a lot of additional stuff to make it work. A LOT.
…
That should be good for 475+ RWHP depending on cam selection at under 6000.00
I doubt “Stage I porting” will get you 475rwHP. Also you’ll have to open up the chambers to match the increased bore. That definitely goes beyond Stage I porting.
Also, obviously the total price doesn’t include any labor whatsoever ;)
Add a 1DSC blower for 5000.00 and your around the $12K mark making 650+ RWHP
You can definitely forget about adding a blower on top of a stroker for $5K :nonod:
You’d need a lot of additional stuff to make it work. A LOT.
thanks
And phil, its scary to put this into perspective relative to the $20K+ tuner motors. :eek: (obviously you dont get the warranty, etc, but man!) :yesnod:
[Modified by kewlbrz, 3:16 PM 7/17/2002]